Question asked by Evie Oberdorfer 2200 days ago
is shoulder girdle part of the core
does IDEA have any studies on core and scapula stabilization
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Answered by Joanne Duncan-Carnesciali
2199 days ago
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I stand corrected. The shoulder girdle is not part of the core as is asked in the question. Please allow me to clarify.
It does have an affect on core stability. We know that "hip and trunk muscle strength, abdominal muscle endurance, the ability to maintain a particular spinal or pelvic alignment and the absence of ligamentous laxity in the vertebral column have all been identified as core stability." Scapular stability is involved in this.
The anatomy of the core as defined by NASM Essential of Fitness Training is "the lumbo-pelvic-hip complex and the thoracic and cervical spine, where the body's center of gravity is located.
The shoulder girdle does act on the thoracic spine, hence my confusion.
It would be foolhardy however to train the "core" and not include scapular stability.
Thank you all the heads up! 8))
It does have an affect on core stability. We know that "hip and trunk muscle strength, abdominal muscle endurance, the ability to maintain a particular spinal or pelvic alignment and the absence of ligamentous laxity in the vertebral column have all been identified as core stability." Scapular stability is involved in this.
The anatomy of the core as defined by NASM Essential of Fitness Training is "the lumbo-pelvic-hip complex and the thoracic and cervical spine, where the body's center of gravity is located.
The shoulder girdle does act on the thoracic spine, hence my confusion.
It would be foolhardy however to train the "core" and not include scapular stability.
Thank you all the heads up! 8))
Answered by Joanne Duncan-Carnesciali
2200 days ago
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The shoulder girdle is part of the core musculature.
You'll need to visit the section that reads "Articles" on this website and do a search for core or core musculature.
All the best!
You'll need to visit the section that reads "Articles" on this website and do a search for core or core musculature.
All the best!
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I'm right there with Joanne as well.
IDEAFit's "Articles" section has a massive amount of articles available for members to read whenever they like. This aspect of the site is actually one of the main reasons I have no problem renewing my membership year after year.
Out of curiosity, what information regarding the "core and shoulder girdle" are you specifically interested in? If you wouldn’t mind clarifying your actual question(s) perhaps I could provide some additional links to related articles/books/blogs/etc.
IDEAFit's "Articles" section has a massive amount of articles available for members to read whenever they like. This aspect of the site is actually one of the main reasons I have no problem renewing my membership year after year.
Out of curiosity, what information regarding the "core and shoulder girdle" are you specifically interested in? If you wouldn’t mind clarifying your actual question(s) perhaps I could provide some additional links to related articles/books/blogs/etc.
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I am curious about this question
I am in agreement with Joannes clarification but it sounds to me like you are confusing the core with the shoulder with stabilization.
Please clarify
Your business name includes the ore CORE!
I am in agreement with Joannes clarification but it sounds to me like you are confusing the core with the shoulder with stabilization.
Please clarify
Your business name includes the ore CORE!
Answered by Joanne Duncan-Carnesciali
2199 days ago
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Evie, I see your point.
Many fitness professionals include myself define the core as everything between the head arms and legs as you have stated and I include myself among the many. However, if we are going to define it according to the textbook, the shoulder girdle is not inclusive of it. This is where I stand corrected.
When I am training my clients and I observe that the core in the pure definition of core is weak, there is generally weakness and instability in the scapular. Hence, I like many other fitness professionals design programs to improve core stability and strength/endurance as well as the stability and strength of the shoulder.
Thank you so much for your thought-provoking question and best to you!
Many fitness professionals include myself define the core as everything between the head arms and legs as you have stated and I include myself among the many. However, if we are going to define it according to the textbook, the shoulder girdle is not inclusive of it. This is where I stand corrected.
When I am training my clients and I observe that the core in the pure definition of core is weak, there is generally weakness and instability in the scapular. Hence, I like many other fitness professionals design programs to improve core stability and strength/endurance as well as the stability and strength of the shoulder.
Thank you so much for your thought-provoking question and best to you!
Answered by NatalieSmith NAPS 2 B Fit
2198 days ago
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Hello Evie Oberdorfer,
I do not like to use the term, core; but, in this world, I do not see the shoulder girdle as part of what people call the core.
Take care.
I do not like to use the term, core; but, in this world, I do not see the shoulder girdle as part of what people call the core.
Take care.
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Hello Evie,
Have to agree with the posts given here already...
Sincerely,
Michael
Have to agree with the posts given here already...
Sincerely,
Michael
Answered by Karin Singleton
2197 days ago
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Hi Evie,
looking at all the answers that preceded my post, I personally include the training of the intrinsic stabilizers of the shoulder girdle in my definition of core training even though this is not according to textbook.
Karin Singleton
www.meltnc.com
looking at all the answers that preceded my post, I personally include the training of the intrinsic stabilizers of the shoulder girdle in my definition of core training even though this is not according to textbook.
Karin Singleton
www.meltnc.com
Answered by Daniel Kosich
1893 days ago
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All great responses. While the definition of "core" is obviously somewhat ambiguous I continue to suggest that it refers primarily to the muscles that support and stabilize the pelvis and lower spine. But I agree with Karin in that strengthening the shoulder girdle musculature has a profound effect on the function and strength of lower back and abdominal muscles. The integration of movement and strength throughout the entire spinal region is clearly an essential consideration in any training regimen. Don't forget the shoulder internal and external rotators!
take care.
take care.
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I consider the shoulder complex and the hip complex to be part of the core. It is irrelevant to me that NASM or any other group does not. If your shoulder is unstable and weak, it directly effects the function of the spine and can even effect stability at the feet and ankles.
We should be treating the body as a whole and not the sum of it's parts.
We should be treating the body as a whole and not the sum of it's parts.