I am seeing a lot of message boards that appear to be EXACTLY the same info about someone taking or scheduled to take a test with reponses by people saying that they are questioning the authenticity because they failed or sre not smart enough. I don’t care about pass or fail. I am wondering who this group is. If I google them THE ONLY THING that comes up are the message board threads and scam reports. Obviously this is a red flag, but maybe I am missing something? Is anyone actually employed by them? Why can I find nothing about them online?
I do not know this group. I have seen a lot of chat about them though…. there seems to be no middle ground… some people say it is a good test, some say it is a complete scam. This is a link to a past question with quite a number of responses pro and con:
One thing that I find surprising is that I cannot find them on the IDEA certification list. I might just be looking in the wrong spot, but it is surprising not to have them there as it is a pretty good tool to compare various certifications:
I also do not see a NCCA accredited seal displayed on their home page. While NCCA may not be the only gauge of a good program, it is certainly a sign that the program will be accepted for most jobs. The NHE has a long explanation on why they did not try to get NCCA, which could be quite true, or could be spin. But even if it were true, I am not sure as a consumer it will help you to do a certification, no matter how detailed that does not offer the validation most fitness businesses look for. They may be right about its role in government bodies, but how many of us are going to work for NIH? I suggest reading it yourself:
I would have to say that I am on the fence. Their web site suggests that someone behind this company has a very good understanding of business and policy. And I agree with quite a bit of what I see on the site. However, there is an opacity to it that I find unappealing. The materials seem to suggest a high calibre of subject matter in their exams. However, I have issues with the costs, which are high. and I do think there is a reason to have a separation between the agency that certifies, and the agency that represents. (anyone else remembers when ACE split from IDEA?) And pragmatically speaking if you want a ‘gold standard’ certification without controversy you could always sit for ACSM.
I got many e-mails from them touting their certification several years ago. They kept offering me extremely high paying jobs once I “passed their certification”. I was never able to verify their program. As Ariadne says it is hard to get an answer from them, and they are not board certified. It was too suspicious for me. I would suggest going with a proven agency such as ACE, ACSM, NASM etc.
I don’t think it’s ÔÇÿspin’ because it’s all accurate information that anyone can look up on their own. What I find funny is how out of all of the many certification companies there are, the one company people try to discredit is the only company whistle-blowing the truth about the fitness industry. Let’s see… in what other industry have I seen that? Their article regarding the NCCA is true and anyone who believes that having a certificate that is NCCA ÔÇÿaccredited’ is a good thing simply hasn’t taken one second to research the NCCA. That’s the biggest scam of all. The certifying bodies all know the truth, it’s the public that is ignorant. The companies who are NCCA accredited all know that they never had their exams analyzed or scrutinized, they never received any follow up from the NCCA at the moment their funds were withdrawn from their bank accounts and they also have no knowledge of any company being denied an NCCA accreditation. That is because no such company exists. It’s the old pay-to-play scheme.
Everyone says NHE makes it too difficult to obtain a certificate but I don’t care about some irrelevant ÔÇÿaccreditation’ that means nothing to anyone. If every company in the business of certifying trainers made it difficult to get certified, we wouldn’t have as many under-qualified personal trainers. Who is the NCCA? They are no where to be found. With IDEA, you can attend conventions, seminars and other sponsored events. NCCA is just a pay to play scheme where all that matters is that you pay your fees.
I look at some of the pictures of the few who complain about NHE and I’m not sure I would hire them as my trainer. They don’t look like they even work out. I think it’s a good idea to start with yourself before trying to help someone else get in shape. It’s seems very disingenuous.
If you are ACE certified, you have to believe that the NCCA seal means something, otherwise you have a piece of junk paper on your wall. The fact is, passing the ACE exam means absolutely nothing. Why? Because thousands of high school drop-outs also possess an ACE certification. Designing an exam that only requires a person to be 18 years old, read a kindergarteners exercise book and get CPR certified was a horrible business model. Why do you think people with no formal education in this field flock to ACE?