Question asked by Dani Miro Quesada 1075 days ago
does anyone know how a cert in NASM corrective exercise or Gray institute 3DMAPS compare?
Advanced certifications/programsCorrective ExerciseGray Institute (GI)National Academy of Sports Medicine (NASM)Functional Training
I am a recently certified CPT and am thinking in getting my next cert in NASM corrective exercise or Gray Institute's 3DMAPS but was wondering if I could get more information on them. What they entail, their structure, usefulness/practicality with use on clients, ease of implantation similarities/differences, pros/cons. How regimented (cookie cutter) the exercises, etc are
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Answered by Karin Singleton
1074 days ago
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Hi Dani,
I have the CES certification and am familiar with the Gray Institute and looked at their 2 minute video on their website.
It's difficult to compare the two because the assessment approaches are quite different. They both have merit.
It may depend also on the population you will be working with. The 3D assessment is great for a more active population where those movements can actually be done with a modicum of success. When you have, in contrast, a very sedentary person who has a lot of issues then the 3D analysis gives you so many 'fails' that it will be hard to know where to start.
The NASM CES is easier to apply in that case. It also dovetails with their personal trainer certification in that they apply their OPT model. From what I saw on your profile, though, you do not have the NASM CPT certification, and thus you do not have that advantage.
The NASM CES certainly has the 'if this, then that' application. It seems that there is something in the 3DMAPS as well. However, whether or not is becomes 'cookie cutter' really depends on your skills as a trainer. I usually start with the CES recommendations when I have a new client but often draw on other modalities and sometimes even just gut instinct in my exercise programming. (Easy for me to say; I have been doing this for more than 20 years.)
Hope you will find what works for you.
Karin Singleton
www.meltnc.com
I have the CES certification and am familiar with the Gray Institute and looked at their 2 minute video on their website.
It's difficult to compare the two because the assessment approaches are quite different. They both have merit.
It may depend also on the population you will be working with. The 3D assessment is great for a more active population where those movements can actually be done with a modicum of success. When you have, in contrast, a very sedentary person who has a lot of issues then the 3D analysis gives you so many 'fails' that it will be hard to know where to start.
The NASM CES is easier to apply in that case. It also dovetails with their personal trainer certification in that they apply their OPT model. From what I saw on your profile, though, you do not have the NASM CPT certification, and thus you do not have that advantage.
The NASM CES certainly has the 'if this, then that' application. It seems that there is something in the 3DMAPS as well. However, whether or not is becomes 'cookie cutter' really depends on your skills as a trainer. I usually start with the CES recommendations when I have a new client but often draw on other modalities and sometimes even just gut instinct in my exercise programming. (Easy for me to say; I have been doing this for more than 20 years.)
Hope you will find what works for you.
Karin Singleton
www.meltnc.com
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Hi Dani,
Amazing you just asked this question because I just passed the 3DMAPS course earlier this evening. I have been an NASM CES for several years. I am also certified in corrective exercise through Justin Price's The Biomechanics Method (TBMM).
Since you are relatively new to working as a personal trainer I absolutely recommend that your introduction to corrective exercise be with either NASM or TBMM. I was extremely disappointed with the 3DMAPS course. I will be able to use things I learned in that course with some of my clients, but only because I already have a background and a foundation in corrective exercise.
Dani both NASM and TBMM will help you understand functional anatomy. Videos will walk you through how to perform an assessment of a new client. You will learn what to look for as you watch your client move through the assessment. You will be given a structure for how to develop a corrective exercise program and a library of exercises to use to help correct muscle imbalances that you see in your client. You will know what may be causing your client to have knee, back, or shoulder pain and confidently learn to design a program to help relieve your client's problems by correcting muscle imbalances that you have discovered. I am still amazed at how much relief I can give my clients by teaching them some very simple exercises.
The 3DMAPS course is not as specific as the other courses. If you pass that course as your first course in corrective exercise you will learn a lot of interesting movement patterns and then ask yourself, "Now what do I do?" The course does not address muscle imbalances and how to determine what might cause your client to have pain. The 3DMAPS game plan will seem overall too general and vague for you to be able to immediately apply it to helping your clients.
Dani based on my experience, I highly recommend that you go with either NASM or TBMM. Both courses are great. If the cost is a factor for you, if you write back to me I can provide you with a code that will give you a 10% discount with the TBMM course. You will not go wrong with either course. Good luck in your pursuit of a CES certification.
Denny Pinch
Amazing you just asked this question because I just passed the 3DMAPS course earlier this evening. I have been an NASM CES for several years. I am also certified in corrective exercise through Justin Price's The Biomechanics Method (TBMM).
Since you are relatively new to working as a personal trainer I absolutely recommend that your introduction to corrective exercise be with either NASM or TBMM. I was extremely disappointed with the 3DMAPS course. I will be able to use things I learned in that course with some of my clients, but only because I already have a background and a foundation in corrective exercise.
Dani both NASM and TBMM will help you understand functional anatomy. Videos will walk you through how to perform an assessment of a new client. You will learn what to look for as you watch your client move through the assessment. You will be given a structure for how to develop a corrective exercise program and a library of exercises to use to help correct muscle imbalances that you see in your client. You will know what may be causing your client to have knee, back, or shoulder pain and confidently learn to design a program to help relieve your client's problems by correcting muscle imbalances that you have discovered. I am still amazed at how much relief I can give my clients by teaching them some very simple exercises.
The 3DMAPS course is not as specific as the other courses. If you pass that course as your first course in corrective exercise you will learn a lot of interesting movement patterns and then ask yourself, "Now what do I do?" The course does not address muscle imbalances and how to determine what might cause your client to have pain. The 3DMAPS game plan will seem overall too general and vague for you to be able to immediately apply it to helping your clients.
Dani based on my experience, I highly recommend that you go with either NASM or TBMM. Both courses are great. If the cost is a factor for you, if you write back to me I can provide you with a code that will give you a 10% discount with the TBMM course. You will not go wrong with either course. Good luck in your pursuit of a CES certification.
Denny Pinch
Answered by NatalieSmith NAPS 2 B Fit
1074 days ago
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Hello Dani Miro Quesada,
Thank you so much for this question; the very insightful responses from Karin and Denny are so helpful.
Take care,
Natalie aka NAPS 2 B Fit.
Thank you so much for this question; the very insightful responses from Karin and Denny are so helpful.
Take care,
Natalie aka NAPS 2 B Fit.