Question asked by Susan D'Alonzo 196 days ago
Why can Crossfit give out nutritional advice and diets plans?
As an ACSM certified personal trainer, it is out of my scope of practice to advise clients about nutrition, yet a Crossfit trainer who gets certified within two days can. What do you think?
Answers (8)
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You have to keep in mind that your scope of practice isn't a set of "laws." There really isn't anything to stop any of us from acting outside of our scope. However, the organization that gives us our certificates will deny us of insurance and/or support should be be caught practicing outside of our scope (typically this will be the case when some legal action arises, like when a client files a lawsuit for being injured while performing an exercise under your supervision).
The scope of practice should be viewed as a set of boundaries govern by the level of education we receive for that certification (or as a prerequisite for that certification). If we follow our scope, then we are acting on information within what we were trained for. Generally, the organizations that has their members follow a scope of practice are those that holds themselves to a high standard. They are also the ones that can provide insurance to their members.
This is something to consider when potential clients asks why they should pick you over someone with a weekend certification. You hold yourself to a high standard, understand that you don't know everything and will seek help from other professionals to fill in what you don't know, and ultimately keep your clients safe while they work towards their goal(s). If you stay true to that, you're likely to retain the clients that you want.
The scope of practice should be viewed as a set of boundaries govern by the level of education we receive for that certification (or as a prerequisite for that certification). If we follow our scope, then we are acting on information within what we were trained for. Generally, the organizations that has their members follow a scope of practice are those that holds themselves to a high standard. They are also the ones that can provide insurance to their members.
This is something to consider when potential clients asks why they should pick you over someone with a weekend certification. You hold yourself to a high standard, understand that you don't know everything and will seek help from other professionals to fill in what you don't know, and ultimately keep your clients safe while they work towards their goal(s). If you stay true to that, you're likely to retain the clients that you want.

As stated in the guidelines of ACSM
"The personal trainer does not develop meal plans or specific diet plans for clients"
"The personal trainer does not develop meal plans or specific diet plans for clients"
Comment by Susan D'Alonzo 186 days ago
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When you make up your own rules you can do what you want.
Answered by Harris Sophocleous
196 days ago
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Hi Susan,
All we can do is hold ourselves to a higher standard and stay true to our values, beliefs and to our clients. There are many trainers who cross the line and they become a liability. There are many things I don’t like about Crossfit and I guess this is just one more.
Best,
Harris
All we can do is hold ourselves to a higher standard and stay true to our values, beliefs and to our clients. There are many trainers who cross the line and they become a liability. There are many things I don’t like about Crossfit and I guess this is just one more.
Best,
Harris
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Well, Susan, I am sure you know what I think. It's pathetic. Harris worded it very well.
The thing that saddens me is how it reflects on the entire industry.
Karin Singleton
www.meltnc.com
The thing that saddens me is how it reflects on the entire industry.
Karin Singleton
www.meltnc.com
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Hello Susan,
I will agree with everyone else. Those with a higher standard of care, who choose to stay within their scope of practice, will sleep better at night and take better care of their clients.
Don't worry, Susan, people know you are a professional.
For example, the people who like to overdo it are getting hurt and asking me questions.
Take care.
I will agree with everyone else. Those with a higher standard of care, who choose to stay within their scope of practice, will sleep better at night and take better care of their clients.
Don't worry, Susan, people know you are a professional.
For example, the people who like to overdo it are getting hurt and asking me questions.
Take care.
Not worried!
Comment by Susan D'Alonzo 125 days ago
Good for you, Susan, glad to hear/read it.
Comment by Natalie Smith 124 days ago
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/Agree with most above posts.
Definitely bad news bears for the crossfit community. But at the same time, I'm fairly certain people who join it sign a waiver that pretty much releases crossfit and its affiliates from any damage.
Can't expect much from an organization that emphasizes speed and time over safety and form.
Definitely bad news bears for the crossfit community. But at the same time, I'm fairly certain people who join it sign a waiver that pretty much releases crossfit and its affiliates from any damage.
Can't expect much from an organization that emphasizes speed and time over safety and form.
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Hi Susan,
I think its a shame, disappointing and can make things more difficult for those of us who stay within our scope of practice. Often times clients come to us with different thoughts of what services we can provide. Sometimes this comes from experiences they've had with other trainers, gyms, programs, etc. I try to explain to them upfront my scope of practice as laid out by my certifications (ACE personal trainer and health coach). If they want something other than what I offer, I refer them to a dietician who can give them a more detailed plan. Most of my clients are ok with this once they understand why I practice the way I do (liability, education, etc).
Like many of the others have said, in the end, staying true to the professionals helps ourselves and our clients.
I think its a shame, disappointing and can make things more difficult for those of us who stay within our scope of practice. Often times clients come to us with different thoughts of what services we can provide. Sometimes this comes from experiences they've had with other trainers, gyms, programs, etc. I try to explain to them upfront my scope of practice as laid out by my certifications (ACE personal trainer and health coach). If they want something other than what I offer, I refer them to a dietician who can give them a more detailed plan. Most of my clients are ok with this once they understand why I practice the way I do (liability, education, etc).
Like many of the others have said, in the end, staying true to the professionals helps ourselves and our clients.
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If you know information that could potentially help someone, why would you withhold that information? Should a dietitian be the only person allowed to tell someone that consumption of fast food could potentially lead to heart disease?
I am not cross fit certified but as part of my degree I was required to take sever nutrition classes. As a personal trainer it should be your responsibility to know not only know the exercise aspects that contribute to an overall healthy lifestyle but also the dietary aspects.
Giving food recommendations is a must. What if your client comes into a session having not eaten anything since the day before? What if they decided to eat only a protein bar for breakfast? The will have depleted they glycogen stores during the night and thus will have little to no energy to dedicate to their workout.
I am not cross fit certified but as part of my degree I was required to take sever nutrition classes. As a personal trainer it should be your responsibility to know not only know the exercise aspects that contribute to an overall healthy lifestyle but also the dietary aspects.
Giving food recommendations is a must. What if your client comes into a session having not eaten anything since the day before? What if they decided to eat only a protein bar for breakfast? The will have depleted they glycogen stores during the night and thus will have little to no energy to dedicate to their workout.
Giving out information regarding nutrition and prescribing a diet plan are two different things. You can inform your client why it is important to not cut out any macro-nutrient from their diet or why a client might not need as much protein as one think he/she needs. All that information is well documented and approved in some form that prevents you from being liable (like in my case, recommending and showing clients how to follow the Canada Food Guide).
In my specific case, I am recommending a piece of document that is approved by the government, so my liabilities are limited should any concern arises from a client following the Food Guide. The fact that the guide is written as a recommendation rather than a prescription makes this practice well within my scope.
The problem arises when one oversteps their boundaries and starts creating diet plans for their client. When you start prescribing food to your client, you aren't acting in the capacity of a personal trainer. For one to be able to prescribe a diet plan, one must have more understanding of how the body interacts with the food one eats, the understanding of how one's medical conditions may affect the way the food is absorbed or processed. One also needs to understand the energy demands of a client's daily activities to be able to prescribe food in the right amounts.
Unless your degree required you to apply your knowledge and work with people who needed a diet plan written for them, most of that information through your courses isn't put to much use. Even then, unless you get yourself certified/licensed to do so, you aren't recognized by any organization to actually prescribe meal plans. At the end of the day, your degree only states your level of education, it doesn't necessarily tell people what you know or can do. Your certification does, because your certification clearly defines your scope (assuming that your certification comes from an organization that is respectable).
In my specific case, I am recommending a piece of document that is approved by the government, so my liabilities are limited should any concern arises from a client following the Food Guide. The fact that the guide is written as a recommendation rather than a prescription makes this practice well within my scope.
The problem arises when one oversteps their boundaries and starts creating diet plans for their client. When you start prescribing food to your client, you aren't acting in the capacity of a personal trainer. For one to be able to prescribe a diet plan, one must have more understanding of how the body interacts with the food one eats, the understanding of how one's medical conditions may affect the way the food is absorbed or processed. One also needs to understand the energy demands of a client's daily activities to be able to prescribe food in the right amounts.
Unless your degree required you to apply your knowledge and work with people who needed a diet plan written for them, most of that information through your courses isn't put to much use. Even then, unless you get yourself certified/licensed to do so, you aren't recognized by any organization to actually prescribe meal plans. At the end of the day, your degree only states your level of education, it doesn't necessarily tell people what you know or can do. Your certification does, because your certification clearly defines your scope (assuming that your certification comes from an organization that is respectable).
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