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Question asked by Sheryl Laguna 237 days ago

When doing a machine leg press, is it ok to direct toes to the outside as long as the knees are in alignment with the toes?

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Answered by Jaye Elizabeth Harris 222 days ago
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Yes-most issues being addressed, studies show there is more of a variation of muscles activity with wide versus narrow/low versus high foot placement than foot angle variation. For example, a wide squat generates greater PCL tensile forces than narrow. Narrow generates greater gastroc activity & greater tibiofemoral and patellofemoral compressive forces than wide.

-Beth Harris, CSCS

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Answered by Heidi Campo 237 days ago
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For many people this is their natural allignment. Do what is comftorable and safe. If you can try to keep the toes straight, but again, if your natural alignment is a little "duck footed" let them float out a bit
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Answered by LaRue Cook 235 days ago
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Yes, this can be a safe way to leg press if performed correctly. This exercise is somewhat similar to "sumo squats" with free weight or body weight. If you are in doubt whether you're performing this exercise correctly have a certified personal trainer (assuming you are not one) take a look at what you're doing, and make any necessary corrections.

I hope this helps.

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Answered by Marlan Eller 235 days ago
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Yes,

It is natural for most people to point their toes outward when doing squats or leg exercises. What you're talking about has a lot to do with natural protation in the feet. This happens in feet because the big toe and middle toe bear most of the weight load. Think of it this way, these two toes are 1-2 inches long on average, they can offer more support over a wider area if your feet are pointed outward a little. Posture starts in the feet. The amount of pronation in your feet is directly related to stability in your knees, your hips, and then your spine. Take care of your feet and consider getting a trainer to instruct you on the correct amount of "pointing your toes out" for most people. If that feels comfortable to you, then you may have normal feet that don't need any attention, but if it doesn't feel good or if it puts a lot of strain in your knees, then you should consult a podiatrist for a defninte answer on how much outward rotation is natural and neutral for you. Many times they can make custom orthotics to be worn to correct issues in your feet. Don't just go with any old orthotic (shoe insert) that you get one of those stations in that "analyzes your feet" in a popular all-purpose store.
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Answered by Debbie Russell 233 days ago
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I see that you are indeed a personal trainer so I am assuming you have heard varying opinions on this.

Depending on the placement of your feet and how much ROM is applied determines the target of the exercise whether it be the hamstrings, glutes quadriceps, and calves. However if this exercise is performed improperly the leg press can be very damaging to the knees.

When I started training I always remembered the - "toes in" targets "outer thighs" while "toes out" targets inner thighs with a 30 deg. angle in or out with toes and lowering weight until knees are @ 90 deg.

And then another issue is how far apart are the feet? 6-8 inches or wider?

I think it's all a matter of what’s best for the individual depending on their body type and what they are most comfortable in doing.
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Answered by Laura Bentley 230 days ago
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yes, but only if that is where they are & they can't keep their toes up. I work with my clients to get to feet hip-joint distance apart, toes pointed up, push with the heel, keeping the knees and ankles in alignment with the hip joint through the movement. You want to train in the alignment you are supposed to have, not continue mis-alignment.
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It seems there are many different answers on this topic. An answer posted a few days ago stated "toes in" targets "outer thighs" while "toes out" targets inner thighs with a 30 deg. angle in or out with toes and lowering weight until knees are @ 90 deg. This is the method I had been applying, specifically toes out to work inner thigh. So, is this actually considered a mis-alignment to train in this fashion?

Comment by Sheryl Laguna 229 days ago
mis-alignment in that when people walk/stand with toes out, it over-pronates the foot, allowing the arch to collapse, leading to gait insufficiencies and mis-alignments up through the rest of the body. (Knees, hips, back all compensate) Working the leg press with toes out does work the adductor muscles -- similar to doing sumo squats, and is fine IF that is what you're training for. My point was that we don't want everyone there all the time. As trainers, we need to look at the whole body, and help people to achieve better posture & health. Remember that what we do in one part does affect the whole!
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Answered by Stephen Landrum 230 days ago
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Yes, I think the rest has been said.
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Answered by Scott Garan 194 days ago
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Yes, there should not be any problem.
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