Question asked by Louie Arias 697 days ago
Licensing Fitness Trainers in North Carolina?
After 140 years of Democrats running State Goverment and leaving our State $3 Billion in debt, the Republican Party is now having to come up with ways to raise revenue and one of the ways is to License "Exercise Physiologist" or any one who prescrives "exercise" AKA "personal Trainers" and you must have a MASTERS degree, to practice. What do you think? Good or Bad Idea?
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AWESOME says the person who has invested his time, money, knowledge in his career path!
FUEL THE MOVEMENT
JM
FUEL THE MOVEMENT
JM
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Below is the link detailing the bill.
http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/Sessions/2011/Bills/House/PDF/H639v1.pdf
http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/Sessions/2011/Bills/House/PDF/H639v1.pdf
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Jason, thanks for the link! Now how is it that the ACSM is the only organization mentioned in this proposed bill? I thought any "ACCREDITED" Personal Training Org, was or should be as valid? How is IDEA going to respond? or have they? someone please tell them about it!!!!

It is because ACSM requires an education/degree to even sit for an exam. They work closely with the education system unlike many of the other organizations. NCCA Accreditation is linked to the exam and its validity (ensuring questions are fair etc). NCCA in my opinion is kind of pointless because they only look at the test and not the actual content which drives the organization itself. If i wanted to I could create an exam and its pay 10k a year and get the NCCA accreditation. That does not mean it is good content.
Comment by Jason Martuscello 696 days ago
Answered by Joanne Duncan-Carnesciali
697 days ago
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I am all for it! I am a member of the Clinical Exercise Physiologist Association, (CEPA) which is an affiliate society of the ACSM. "The primary purpose of CEPA is to advance the scientific and practical application of clinical exercise physiology for the betterment of the health, fitness, and quality of life for patients at high risk or living with a chronic disease.
The focus of CEPA is to advance the profession of clinical exercise physiology through advocacy, education, and career development."
Like Jason, I've invested in my education and career and qualified to take and pass the American College of Sports Medicine highest credential--Registered Clinical Exercise Physiologist. I can't wait for this to happen in the state of New York!
At the present Medicare recognizes the ACSM CES and RCEP as acceptable credentials to accept insurance in populations who need cardiac rehabilitation. That is if the exercise physiologist is working alongside a cardiologist. The National Certification for Diabetes Educators recognizes the above two clinical credentials as sufficient to become a Certified Diabetes Educator after fulfilling their requirements. I'd like to add they are the only two NCCA accredited clinical certifications.
I encourage you to visit www.acsm-cepa to learn more about this organization. This is not about the licensing of personal trainers. Personal trainers wouldn't prescribe exercise for populations living with chronic conditions. It's just not in the scope of practice of the credential they hold.
The focus of CEPA is to advance the profession of clinical exercise physiology through advocacy, education, and career development."
Like Jason, I've invested in my education and career and qualified to take and pass the American College of Sports Medicine highest credential--Registered Clinical Exercise Physiologist. I can't wait for this to happen in the state of New York!
At the present Medicare recognizes the ACSM CES and RCEP as acceptable credentials to accept insurance in populations who need cardiac rehabilitation. That is if the exercise physiologist is working alongside a cardiologist. The National Certification for Diabetes Educators recognizes the above two clinical credentials as sufficient to become a Certified Diabetes Educator after fulfilling their requirements. I'd like to add they are the only two NCCA accredited clinical certifications.
I encourage you to visit www.acsm-cepa to learn more about this organization. This is not about the licensing of personal trainers. Personal trainers wouldn't prescribe exercise for populations living with chronic conditions. It's just not in the scope of practice of the credential they hold.
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Thanks, Jason, for providing the link. I had not been aware of this bill, nor will it impact me in my practice as a personal trainer.
This bill addresses clinical settings where exercise testing is done, and this certainly should be done by a qualified person. Whether a licence for that is necessary, I am not to say. I hope that people hired for this process are well screened by the medical providers.
As for me, I work with people who have been cleared by their doctors to train. And I even have clients who are -appparently - healthy enough that I do not even require a physician's approval to exercise. The bill does not describe this scenario.
This bill addresses clinical settings where exercise testing is done, and this certainly should be done by a qualified person. Whether a licence for that is necessary, I am not to say. I hope that people hired for this process are well screened by the medical providers.
As for me, I work with people who have been cleared by their doctors to train. And I even have clients who are -appparently - healthy enough that I do not even require a physician's approval to exercise. The bill does not describe this scenario.
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Good information. While there is no perfect answer for everyone, I do think that requiring a masters degree would be crippling to our industry affecting both clients and fitness professionals. I believe that that requirement would be good down the road but there needs to be a grandfather clause for those who currently practice.
Answered by Joanne Duncan-Carnesciali
696 days ago
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William, I believe there is a grandfather clause. You might want to visit www.acsm-cepa.org.
Answered by Chris Gellert, PT, MMusc &Sports Physio, MPT, CSCS, CPT
421 days ago
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Joanne and others,
I believe there is no magic solution. However, we have to look at the "big picture." All professions
have good and bad apples.
However, when a personal trainer is making $50, $60, $70/hr or more without a degree or significant knowledge on how the human body works, energy systems utilized, muscles contracted, prior injuries...Having regulating is the way to go and it is on the way here in DC which will affect all states.
So at the end of the day, the more knowledge you have, the MORE IT WILL HELP YOU!!!!
Knowledge=power
That will only solidify the professional that you are and the profession of personal training needs
a face lift..
I believe there is no magic solution. However, we have to look at the "big picture." All professions
have good and bad apples.
However, when a personal trainer is making $50, $60, $70/hr or more without a degree or significant knowledge on how the human body works, energy systems utilized, muscles contracted, prior injuries...Having regulating is the way to go and it is on the way here in DC which will affect all states.
So at the end of the day, the more knowledge you have, the MORE IT WILL HELP YOU!!!!
Knowledge=power
That will only solidify the professional that you are and the profession of personal training needs
a face lift..
Answered by Joanne Duncan-Carnesciali
420 days ago
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Thanks for your statement Chris. As a degreed clinical exercise physiologist, I am ready for any change that will eventually happen in the fitness industry, not only nationally, but internationally. I have over 20 years experience in the fitness and wellness industry and I believe there are many like me who are knowledgeable, prepared and passionate fitness professionals with solid credentials and experience.
Of the over twenty years I have been in the industry 14 years were spent in both London and England. I learned then ofthe chasm in terms of education and standards that exist between the US and Europe/Australia/NZ. Included in the personal training courses that I teach at my studio is my vast international experience.
I am very excited that the wonderful folks at IDEA have made this portal for not only fitness professionals but physical therapists like yourself to demonstrate how truly professional we are (at least from my perspective) and have given us a forum to demonstrate that we are proactive in raising the bar.
This I believe merits acknowledgement.
I am truly excited at the enthusiasm my fellow fitness professionals show on this portal and feel confident that they too are preparing themselves for the change that we both foresee and that they too foresee.
Chris, thank you, for referencing me in your post.
Of the over twenty years I have been in the industry 14 years were spent in both London and England. I learned then ofthe chasm in terms of education and standards that exist between the US and Europe/Australia/NZ. Included in the personal training courses that I teach at my studio is my vast international experience.
I am very excited that the wonderful folks at IDEA have made this portal for not only fitness professionals but physical therapists like yourself to demonstrate how truly professional we are (at least from my perspective) and have given us a forum to demonstrate that we are proactive in raising the bar.
This I believe merits acknowledgement.
I am truly excited at the enthusiasm my fellow fitness professionals show on this portal and feel confident that they too are preparing themselves for the change that we both foresee and that they too foresee.
Chris, thank you, for referencing me in your post.





