Question asked by Joanne Duncan-Carnesciali 335 days ago
Is there a difference between a personal trainer and a health fitness specialist?
Personal Training: Ethics/Scope of PracticePersonal TrainingExercise PhysiologyClinical Exercise Physiologist
There are so many titles in our industry (personal trainer, fitness expert, exercise specialist, exercise physiologist and the list goes on). Makes one wonder if there is any difference between them all or is it self-aggrandizement? What's your opinion? Is there a difference?
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Nowadays you can become a personal trainer with a certification from a vast array of differenct organizations. More often than not a HFS is required to have a degree in Exercise Science, Kinesiology, or a related field. Many HFS are employed in corporate wellness centers, universities, health agencies or community facilities.
As an employed HFS at a corporate wellness center my duties not only include utilizing my personal training knowledge with supervising workouts, fitness testing and prescriptions but also implementing strategic program and marketing plans, monthly reporting statistics, ensuring compliance to equipment preventative maintenance schedule, and creating and delivering fitness incentive programs to our members.
As an employed HFS at a corporate wellness center my duties not only include utilizing my personal training knowledge with supervising workouts, fitness testing and prescriptions but also implementing strategic program and marketing plans, monthly reporting statistics, ensuring compliance to equipment preventative maintenance schedule, and creating and delivering fitness incentive programs to our members.
Answered by Danielle Vindez
328 days ago
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Debbie's point is spot on. Often times the Health Fitness Specialist is a more advanced designation specializing in fitness testing, risk stratification and interpretation. Again, because most have a minimum of a four year college degree and an advanced certification they are often more prevalent in hospital settings, running corporate centers, or as workplace wellness facilitators. As experts (specialists) they are expected to tap into their knowledge base and create as needed reports, programs, and motivational incentives.
We can think of the health aspect as goals or actions to delay death and avoid disease.
We can think of the health aspect as goals or actions to delay death and avoid disease.
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I remember when a club I worked for, changed our title from "personal trainer" to "fit coach"; put it real big on the back of our shirts too. I was so mad! I kept thinking to myself, "I'm certified by a nationally accredited agency and I'm a professional... yadda yadda." I actually refused to buy the new shirt annd internally laughed at those who did (hey, so did 80% of the gym). Now, I've heard so many different names for what we do it boggles the mind. There are even self help aides for sale telling people to differentiate themselves by coming up with there own title; and people have come up with some doozies, too. Now, the title personnal trainer still embodies the principles of the profession. This must remain personal; to the client and the trainer, and it IS training we should be striving to provide. That means educating, instructing, evaluating and encouraging those we train to take up these reigns continue to develope.
I appologize for the typo. I am having trouble getting this site to save my edited comments. The Statement above was once edited to read "Now, in my opinion,the title.." As, I don't believe that their is a difference between the two other than one has documentation of formally testing their knowledge. The principles I claimed were educating, instructing, evaluating and encouraging... (those popped in my head first; I bet this forum could list hundreds)
Comment by Stephen Landrum 334 days ago
I Think that continuing education is very important for anyone in our profession and gaining education through the accredited certifying agencies is a great way to do it, but the same knowledge is also gained through many other mediums. I think that trainers with the knowledge provided by getting a Health Fitness Specialist certification should express their furthered education to the public, however, I believe that their boundaries should remain the same. Crossing the personal training scope of practice line should be treaded with caution. It does give a bit more legal backing if one needed to defend their actions in court, but not much.
Comment by Stephen Landrum 333 days ago
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I have been working in the corporate fitness industry for some years now, and we wear many titles. As in, we teach group fitness, personal train, and handle many of the administrative tasks associated with the operations of the facility. To me, that is a health fitness specialist. Personal training is a specialty. They provide a personal experience to one individual or a small group. They are training individuals to reach their potential health/fitness goals. There is a difference...
Answered by Joanne Duncan-Carnesciali
334 days ago
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Serena, out of curiosity where is the "health" in the description you've given?
Joanne,
My apologies, my answer was a little vague.
A Health Fitness Specialist: Usually works in with smaller sedentary populations in corporate/government, and hospital settings where there is a strong focus on "Health, Fitness, and Wellness". They utilize Par-Q's and extensive health history questionaires to perform risk stratifications (low, moderate, high). In some settings, such as my own -we require a hard copy of blood work that contains lab results for: BP, total cholesterol, HDL's/LDL's an Glucose. This is all done prior to any assessment being performed. An assessment is performed to further assess the client prior to creating any personalized program. the overall focus of the final product is HEALTH.
Personal Trainers: Depending on the setting, seldomly focus on the overall health of the client. They usually perform and assessment and work towards FITNESS.
My apologies, my answer was a little vague.
A Health Fitness Specialist: Usually works in with smaller sedentary populations in corporate/government, and hospital settings where there is a strong focus on "Health, Fitness, and Wellness". They utilize Par-Q's and extensive health history questionaires to perform risk stratifications (low, moderate, high). In some settings, such as my own -we require a hard copy of blood work that contains lab results for: BP, total cholesterol, HDL's/LDL's an Glucose. This is all done prior to any assessment being performed. An assessment is performed to further assess the client prior to creating any personalized program. the overall focus of the final product is HEALTH.
Personal Trainers: Depending on the setting, seldomly focus on the overall health of the client. They usually perform and assessment and work towards FITNESS.
Comment by Serena Pharr 334 days ago
Yes, An ACE Certified Personal trainer is certified to work with apparently healthy populations to improve their overall fitness level. An ACE Advance Health Fitness Specialist and ACSM-HFS are qualified to work with special populations who are cleared by their physicians for exercise.
Comment by Serena Pharr 334 days ago
Thank you, Joanne.... I think that these discussions bring awareness to others in the industry.
Comment by Serena Pharr 334 days ago
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I don't see the inherent difference between a personal trainer and a health fitness specialist.
I think there's a sense nowadays (and not just in our industry) that everybody has to find their niche, specialize, make their mark; hence all the different (yet very much the same) titles that are emerging.
I guess if it makes you feel better to call yourself one thing over another, or if you truly believe one term describes you better than others, go for it. Otherwise, keep it simple.
Besides, as it is so many people don't really understand what a personal trainer is or what we do...Do we really want to start confusing people even more??
I think there's a sense nowadays (and not just in our industry) that everybody has to find their niche, specialize, make their mark; hence all the different (yet very much the same) titles that are emerging.
I guess if it makes you feel better to call yourself one thing over another, or if you truly believe one term describes you better than others, go for it. Otherwise, keep it simple.
Besides, as it is so many people don't really understand what a personal trainer is or what we do...Do we really want to start confusing people even more??
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Yes there is a big difference between a personal trainer and an HFS as I carry both certifications. Besides the corporate and marketing being more in depth HFS's are required to know ECG and special populations in much more detail.

hi there was just wondering if there was any difference between an acsm certified health fitness specialist and a certified exercise specialist besides the fact that a ces needs 600 hours of clinical training? Thanks!
Comment by Gao Zoua Downs 142 days ago
I am not sure exactly what is required for the exercise specialist but by reading the description it looks to be very much like the HFS, however the one difference I did note is that the HFS works with people with 'medically controlled' conditions whereas it look like Exercise Specialist goes into even more clinical...working with doctors.
Comment by Julia Greenfield 142 days ago
sorry...medically controlled conditions RELEASED for exercise.
Comment by Julia Greenfield 142 days ago
Answered by Jenn Green
265 days ago
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HFS is a specific credential offered by American College of Sports Medicine. Up until July 1, 2011 it required a Bachelor's degree in a health-related field or an Associate's degree in exercise science. Currently it requires a bachelor's degree in a kinesiology based field.
Personal Training Certification requires no special degree and can be obtained through a variety of different agencies. That being said, there are still many personal trainers who are very well educated. Don't let credentials be the only judging point.
As far as what they actually do in the field? I'm with Julia, Danielle, and Debbie. HFS certification is clinical in nature and often goes beyond fitness prescriptions.
Personal Training Certification requires no special degree and can be obtained through a variety of different agencies. That being said, there are still many personal trainers who are very well educated. Don't let credentials be the only judging point.
As far as what they actually do in the field? I'm with Julia, Danielle, and Debbie. HFS certification is clinical in nature and often goes beyond fitness prescriptions.
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http://certification.acsm.org/acsm-certified-health-fitness-specialist
http://certification.acsm.org/acsm-certified-personal-trainer
you all can see for yourself :D
http://certification.acsm.org/acsm-certified-personal-trainer
you all can see for yourself :D
Answered by Joanne Duncan-Carnesciali
142 days ago
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Thanks everyone for your responses to the question I posed.
FYI, the ACSM HFS is not a clinical certification. The ACSM states this on their website specifically. This does not mean that one cannot work in a clinical environment with a ACSM HFS credential. The ACSM HFS may be the credential that they require in order to work in that specific clinical environment. Generally, they ask for the CES and RCEP
The industry has only two NCCA accredited certifications that are clinical in nature. They are the ACSM CES and RCEP.
FYI, the ACSM HFS is not a clinical certification. The ACSM states this on their website specifically. This does not mean that one cannot work in a clinical environment with a ACSM HFS credential. The ACSM HFS may be the credential that they require in order to work in that specific clinical environment. Generally, they ask for the CES and RCEP
The industry has only two NCCA accredited certifications that are clinical in nature. They are the ACSM CES and RCEP.
Answered by Chris Gellert, PT, MMusc &Sports Physio, MPT, CSCS, CPT
75 days ago
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There is a difference joanne. However it goes down to what certification body that you refer to and without regulation and standardization, each party may have their own view.
A personal trainer is someone with or without a formal degree in exercise science, movement, kinesiology etc with our without advanced credentials.
A health fitness specialist(again a term used differently among other certifications) which is a problem, is someone who has shown and demonstrated competency in both cognitive and psychomotor proficiency with comorbities, injuries and chronic conditions(not chronic pain).
What the industry is going to see is a level or category system of the following:
Category or level I personal trainer-someone who can work with only health individuals.
Level II-Are personal trainers who are able to work with individuals with chronic diseases(simple)
Level III-Are personal trainers that tend to work with multiple issues(ie. hip replacement, history of COPD or cancer) or an athlete with a history of an ACL reconstruction and/or other injuries.
The level system makes sense and is not licensure unlike physical therapists, OT's, dentists and lawyers, but the industry NEEDS IT now!!
This is a similar system that is being conducted in Australia and in the UK with REPS and is onthe way here in the US, so get ready. We need to deliniate a person's knowledge, abilities and skillet to allow them to work with the appropriate clientele. It is down the pike..More to come...
A personal trainer is someone with or without a formal degree in exercise science, movement, kinesiology etc with our without advanced credentials.
A health fitness specialist(again a term used differently among other certifications) which is a problem, is someone who has shown and demonstrated competency in both cognitive and psychomotor proficiency with comorbities, injuries and chronic conditions(not chronic pain).
What the industry is going to see is a level or category system of the following:
Category or level I personal trainer-someone who can work with only health individuals.
Level II-Are personal trainers who are able to work with individuals with chronic diseases(simple)
Level III-Are personal trainers that tend to work with multiple issues(ie. hip replacement, history of COPD or cancer) or an athlete with a history of an ACL reconstruction and/or other injuries.
The level system makes sense and is not licensure unlike physical therapists, OT's, dentists and lawyers, but the industry NEEDS IT now!!
This is a similar system that is being conducted in Australia and in the UK with REPS and is onthe way here in the US, so get ready. We need to deliniate a person's knowledge, abilities and skillet to allow them to work with the appropriate clientele. It is down the pike..More to come...
Seems like the same type of system used to differentiate EMT's based on skill sets. I think it is a good way to go.
Comment by Stephen Landrum 75 days ago
Stephen and Chris
I am registered both on the Register of Exercise Professionals of the UK also known as REP as well as registered on the European Register of Exercise Professionals -known as EREPS.
Because I hold European credentials and have taken courses in Europe that have a live component, I was admitted onto those registers.
They are both similar to IDEA Fitness Connect with the only difference being that the credentialing bodies must be approved REPS and EREPS educational providers. An organization called Skills Active determines whether their course and credential will become approved for entry onto the Register.
While it is true that one is registered according to their skill set, it is simply a registry that informs the public that the fitness professionals they are using are credentialed in addition to informing the prospective client the areas of the fitness professionals expertise. I am currently registered as Level 3 in England and as a Level 4 personal trainer in Italy. Being registered on the Registry and being insured through EREPS gives me the right to work throughout Europe, Australia and New Zealand. FYI, there are 30 member nations that register exercise professionals on their respective registers.
How that would affect me is that upon entering into Australia or New Zealand I would be listed on the registry as a personal trainer and I would be required to earn CECs in business skills. Throughout Europe entering in from the UK, I would be either listed as a Level 3 or a Level 4 trainer.
If you would like more info you can visit www.exerciseregister.org, www.ereps.eu and www.icreps.org
If you look up my name you will see that I am on the register. I've been part since the inception.
I am registered both on the Register of Exercise Professionals of the UK also known as REP as well as registered on the European Register of Exercise Professionals -known as EREPS.
Because I hold European credentials and have taken courses in Europe that have a live component, I was admitted onto those registers.
They are both similar to IDEA Fitness Connect with the only difference being that the credentialing bodies must be approved REPS and EREPS educational providers. An organization called Skills Active determines whether their course and credential will become approved for entry onto the Register.
While it is true that one is registered according to their skill set, it is simply a registry that informs the public that the fitness professionals they are using are credentialed in addition to informing the prospective client the areas of the fitness professionals expertise. I am currently registered as Level 3 in England and as a Level 4 personal trainer in Italy. Being registered on the Registry and being insured through EREPS gives me the right to work throughout Europe, Australia and New Zealand. FYI, there are 30 member nations that register exercise professionals on their respective registers.
How that would affect me is that upon entering into Australia or New Zealand I would be listed on the registry as a personal trainer and I would be required to earn CECs in business skills. Throughout Europe entering in from the UK, I would be either listed as a Level 3 or a Level 4 trainer.
If you would like more info you can visit www.exerciseregister.org, www.ereps.eu and www.icreps.org
If you look up my name you will see that I am on the register. I've been part since the inception.
Comment by Joanne Duncan-Carnesciali 75 days ago
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At a local gym in my town, a personal trainer who has multiple certifications, like CPT and Group Fitness Instructor for example, can be classified as a a "fitness specialist," but as far as Health and Fitness Specialist, it's my opinion that the certification is what you make of it. I think that there are a lot of trainers out there who probably have more knowledge of the area than some people who are certified. I think the certification is mainly supplementary to a more generalized certification like a personal trainer certification. Because of the requirements to hold the certification, it lets other people know that you have completed a minimum level of competency in your field and that you have some serious experience.
That is not correct.....it is clinical in nature and requires in depth knowledge of ECG and clinical work. It is not mainly supplementary...it is a completely different animal than the certified personal trainer.
Comment by Julia Greenfield 142 days ago
Seeing as Joanne has had more extensive experience with certifications than any one of us, I am going to side with her on this. If the certification were clinical enough in nature to be considered clinical, then it would say "clinical" in the certification. Such as the Certified Clinical Exercise Specialist and Registered Clinical Exercise Specialist. If we wanted to say that something is "clinical in nature," we can say that the ACE Personal Trainer certification is clinical in nature because it implies an understanding of ECG and how other clinical specialists deal with clients. We must know those things so that we can refer a client to the proper resource when a particular issue comes up. We could also say that a Bachelor's in Exercise Science is clinical in nature because of the in-depth knowledge required to obtain the degree...
ACSM is pretty much THE standard as far as knowledge goes in the fitness industry, and anyone who has a certification from ACSM has my utmost respect, regardless of how that person feels about others' certifications.
Thank you for sharing your experience with the certification. I stand corrected on my "supplementary" comment. It was premature.
ACSM is pretty much THE standard as far as knowledge goes in the fitness industry, and anyone who has a certification from ACSM has my utmost respect, regardless of how that person feels about others' certifications.
Thank you for sharing your experience with the certification. I stand corrected on my "supplementary" comment. It was premature.
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