Question asked by Gus Aguirre 197 days ago
Is it ok to cut carbs out pre-workout if I am using something like N.O Explode for energy?
I am still eating plenty of lean protein about 1 1/2 hours pre-workout (about 25g) and I have a very clean diet overall. Current goals are to build muscle and I am on a pretty common bodybuilding routine and diet.
Answers (8)
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This supplement is low carbohydrates only 6 grams per scoop. You will achieve more strength and muscle size gains if you have plenty of carbohydrates after your workouts to restore glycogen in the muscles. Glycogen is the primary fuel for most bodybuilding exercises. This will protect your muscle mass gains from being used for fuel during longer workout sessions. You should ask a dietician about your supplements to find out whether they are complete(you might think that protein is protein but imbalanced amino acids can be dangerous and useless for bodybuilding). If you have eaten a lot of carbohydrates the night before a workout you might not need any extra before your workout but it could give your muscles a boost of energy for a more effective workout.

Good answer.
Comment by Marlan Eller 191 days ago
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I wouldn't cut carbs out of my diet untill a 4-5 hours before bed. What are you going to use for energy? NO Explode is only dialating your vessels (akin to Viagra's effect) allowing the nutrients to flow more readily thoughout your system, and giving you caffeine (not an ideal source of energy for anaerobic exercise.) Talk to a local nutritionist for a more personal answer based on your current routine timeline (which you didn't list.)

Hey Stephen, thanks for your answer. I think I should have been a little more description in my details but I sometimes feel like it's too much info.
Profile
Age: 29
Height: 5'9
Weight: 171
Body Fat %: 14.5
-Current Goal-
Gain muscle over the next few months before a spring/summer cut
-Workout Overview (5 Day Split)-
Monday: Chest/Abs with evening cardio
Tuesday: Back
Wednesday: Legs/Abs with evening cardio
Thursday: Shoulders
Friday: Arms/Abs with evening cardio
-Nutrition Overview-
Daily Calorie Average: 2800
Protein: 275g
Carbs: 245.5
Fat: 73.7 (saturated 10.1g)
Macros: 40/36/24
-Supplements-
Multivitamins
Protein
Creatine
BCAA
L-Glutamin
Vitamin C
Omega 3-6-9
Pre-workout shake (N.O)
I eat very clean, lots of egg whites, chicken breast, tuna, tilapia, oatmeal, almonds, greens, veggies, natural peanut butter, whole wheat etc
Thanks!
Profile
Age: 29
Height: 5'9
Weight: 171
Body Fat %: 14.5
-Current Goal-
Gain muscle over the next few months before a spring/summer cut
-Workout Overview (5 Day Split)-
Monday: Chest/Abs with evening cardio
Tuesday: Back
Wednesday: Legs/Abs with evening cardio
Thursday: Shoulders
Friday: Arms/Abs with evening cardio
-Nutrition Overview-
Daily Calorie Average: 2800
Protein: 275g
Carbs: 245.5
Fat: 73.7 (saturated 10.1g)
Macros: 40/36/24
-Supplements-
Multivitamins
Protein
Creatine
BCAA
L-Glutamin
Vitamin C
Omega 3-6-9
Pre-workout shake (N.O)
I eat very clean, lots of egg whites, chicken breast, tuna, tilapia, oatmeal, almonds, greens, veggies, natural peanut butter, whole wheat etc
Thanks!
Comment by Gus Aguirre 196 days ago
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So let's say you empty your gas tank then try to go for a drive... Seems silly doesn't it. Carbs are your body's fuel even if you use a pre workout (super charger on your vehicle) then workout( go for drive) how will you make any progress...unless you like walking( in either case that is all you have fuel for)
Why are you cutting carbs? How low is your carb intake?
Why are you cutting carbs? How low is your carb intake?

Hey Shawn, thanks for your answer. I think I should have been a little more description in my details but I sometimes feel like it's too much info.
Profile
Age: 29
Height: 5'9
Weight: 171
Body Fat %: 14.5
-Current Goal-
Gain muscle over the next few months before a spring/summer cut
-Workout Overview (5 Day Split)-
Monday: Chest/Abs with evening cardio
Tuesday: Back
Wednesday: Legs/Abs with evening cardio
Thursday: Shoulders
Friday: Arms/Abs with evening cardio
-Nutrition Overview-
Daily Calorie Average: 2800
Protein: 275g
Carbs: 245.5
Fat: 73.7 (saturated 10.1g)
Macros: 40/36/24
-Supplements-
Multivitamins
Protein
Creatine
BCAA
L-Glutamin
Vitamin C
Omega 3-6-9
I eat very clean, lots of egg whites, chicken breast, tuna, tilapia, oatmeal, almonds, greens, veggies, natural peanut butter, whole wheat etc
Thanks!
Profile
Age: 29
Height: 5'9
Weight: 171
Body Fat %: 14.5
-Current Goal-
Gain muscle over the next few months before a spring/summer cut
-Workout Overview (5 Day Split)-
Monday: Chest/Abs with evening cardio
Tuesday: Back
Wednesday: Legs/Abs with evening cardio
Thursday: Shoulders
Friday: Arms/Abs with evening cardio
-Nutrition Overview-
Daily Calorie Average: 2800
Protein: 275g
Carbs: 245.5
Fat: 73.7 (saturated 10.1g)
Macros: 40/36/24
-Supplements-
Multivitamins
Protein
Creatine
BCAA
L-Glutamin
Vitamin C
Omega 3-6-9
I eat very clean, lots of egg whites, chicken breast, tuna, tilapia, oatmeal, almonds, greens, veggies, natural peanut butter, whole wheat etc
Thanks!
Comment by Gus Aguirre 196 days ago
Where did you get these Macro ratios from??? look at the top bodybuilders diet plans...they are eating a ton of carbs unless they are leaning out for competition.
In order to gain muscle you have to be able to workout hard enough to do that...so you are going to need fuel, and lots of it. The thing about carbs is they have a protein sparing effect so you don't actually need that much protein if you up your carbs. High protein diets are focused on ketogenesis and the use of the beta oxidative energy process for fuel... this is not optimal for most people, note I said most because I have read that some people can not only tolerate it better than others but respond to it better overall.
The bottom line here is if you eat a well balanced meal and get enough calories (extra 2500 per week) and work your butt off (properly) you will gain lean muscle mass.
from a quick glance at your stats it looks like you can't make up your mind on what exactly you want to focus on. you are 14% BF great, so if you managed to minimize any fat gain then put on lean muscle that number will go down. But you are eating like dropping that 14% lower is your goal.
In order to gain muscle you have to be able to workout hard enough to do that...so you are going to need fuel, and lots of it. The thing about carbs is they have a protein sparing effect so you don't actually need that much protein if you up your carbs. High protein diets are focused on ketogenesis and the use of the beta oxidative energy process for fuel... this is not optimal for most people, note I said most because I have read that some people can not only tolerate it better than others but respond to it better overall.
The bottom line here is if you eat a well balanced meal and get enough calories (extra 2500 per week) and work your butt off (properly) you will gain lean muscle mass.
from a quick glance at your stats it looks like you can't make up your mind on what exactly you want to focus on. you are 14% BF great, so if you managed to minimize any fat gain then put on lean muscle that number will go down. But you are eating like dropping that 14% lower is your goal.
Comment by Shawn Fears 195 days ago
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Great Question!
Cutting out carbs pre-workout should be OK, If you have consumed carbs in the past 72 hours. I usually consume MCT Oil (medium chain triglyceride) before my workout and keep my carbs lower, but not completely out alltogether.
The MCT Oil is a fat that does'nt store on your body like a long chain triglyceride, twice as dense as a carb, this should give you plenty of fuel needed for your workout.
Simple rule of thumb used for protein consumption...take one half of your body weight and convert it to grams...ie: 180 pounds = 90 grams of protein.
NO Explode...save your money...work with food first to get your results.
Train hard every workout session...push yourself to your limits...shock yourself and try something new, mix it up, keep your body guessing, feed it, hydrate it and rest it!
BTW...Have Fun!
Cutting out carbs pre-workout should be OK, If you have consumed carbs in the past 72 hours. I usually consume MCT Oil (medium chain triglyceride) before my workout and keep my carbs lower, but not completely out alltogether.
The MCT Oil is a fat that does'nt store on your body like a long chain triglyceride, twice as dense as a carb, this should give you plenty of fuel needed for your workout.
Simple rule of thumb used for protein consumption...take one half of your body weight and convert it to grams...ie: 180 pounds = 90 grams of protein.
NO Explode...save your money...work with food first to get your results.
Train hard every workout session...push yourself to your limits...shock yourself and try something new, mix it up, keep your body guessing, feed it, hydrate it and rest it!
BTW...Have Fun!
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http://www.bc.edu/offices/dining/nutrition/topics/supplements.html
Here is an interesting article by a Registered Dietician(By Sheila Tucker, MA, RD, LDN
Administrative Dietitian, B.C. Dining) written for Boston College Dining.
Tucker recommends 1.4-1.8 grams per kilogram body weight when building new muscle vs. 0.8 grams per kilogram for sedentary people.
You weight converted to kilograms is about 77.5 so your protein needs shouldn't exceed 140 grams or so until you reach a higher weight. Although I am impressed you can eat that much protein, you could reduce your protein intake by a whopping 135 grams and take a lot of stress off your kidneys. Adding an equal amount of carbs would keep the calories the same and probably speed your metabolism.
Here is an interesting article by a Registered Dietician(By Sheila Tucker, MA, RD, LDN
Administrative Dietitian, B.C. Dining) written for Boston College Dining.
Tucker recommends 1.4-1.8 grams per kilogram body weight when building new muscle vs. 0.8 grams per kilogram for sedentary people.
You weight converted to kilograms is about 77.5 so your protein needs shouldn't exceed 140 grams or so until you reach a higher weight. Although I am impressed you can eat that much protein, you could reduce your protein intake by a whopping 135 grams and take a lot of stress off your kidneys. Adding an equal amount of carbs would keep the calories the same and probably speed your metabolism.
It can be up to 2g/kg but that is still a lot less than what he is eating. I absolutely agree with you!
Comment by Shawn Fears 195 days ago

Thanks for all the information and advice. I am going to see what kind of menu I can create for myself for next week consisting of more carbs and cutting back a bit on the protein. It's just very difficult sometimes getting up in the highere calories and maintaing a clean diet. I think I am going to eat a higher calorie proteins like steak and salmon instead of tilapia etc.
I figure I'll try it for a week and see how my body responds to a higher carb diet with the same workout routine. Thanks again.
I figure I'll try it for a week and see how my body responds to a higher carb diet with the same workout routine. Thanks again.
Comment by Gus Aguirre 195 days ago
Keep up the good work man, hope it increases your results! I can tell you have been doing your research; you're in the right place there are some very knowledgable trainers on here.
Comment by Andrew Halligan 194 days ago
Even better answer!
Comment by Marlan Eller 191 days ago
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Hey again Gus!
I'm looking at your stats... Unless you're on steroids, (which I DO NOT support--BAD decision!) your body is either a miracle of science, or you are wasting valuable protein because your body simply can't process that much protein. Do you have a lot of excess foam in your urine? My guess would be that you do. This is a sign of too much protein. If you're filling the toilet bowl with a mountain of foam, then you need to cut back. That's just what I say about it. You should actually ask a doctor about that. I'm just trying to keep it real =)
The guidelines that my colleagues have offered are great guidelines as far as protein intake goes. I know you don't want to miss out and you want to make sure that your body is properly fed, but don't go too extreme. Think of your lifestyle in the long term. Get your body used to eating how you would normally eat. Like Shawn said, bust your butt! By busting your behind in the gym and eating balanced nutrition at the proper ratios, you'll gain more long term muscle than you would by trying to expedite the process.
Hats off to you, sir, for keeping track of all that dietary information! I need to use you as an example for some clients!
Oh, your question... NO Explode for energy. I think this particular supplement might offer more of a placebo effect. I would advise you that the best thing you could probably do for yourself is to get used to working out without this supplement. You don't need it if you eat as well as you say you do =). Value a balanced diet!
I'm looking at your stats... Unless you're on steroids, (which I DO NOT support--BAD decision!) your body is either a miracle of science, or you are wasting valuable protein because your body simply can't process that much protein. Do you have a lot of excess foam in your urine? My guess would be that you do. This is a sign of too much protein. If you're filling the toilet bowl with a mountain of foam, then you need to cut back. That's just what I say about it. You should actually ask a doctor about that. I'm just trying to keep it real =)
The guidelines that my colleagues have offered are great guidelines as far as protein intake goes. I know you don't want to miss out and you want to make sure that your body is properly fed, but don't go too extreme. Think of your lifestyle in the long term. Get your body used to eating how you would normally eat. Like Shawn said, bust your butt! By busting your behind in the gym and eating balanced nutrition at the proper ratios, you'll gain more long term muscle than you would by trying to expedite the process.
Hats off to you, sir, for keeping track of all that dietary information! I need to use you as an example for some clients!
Oh, your question... NO Explode for energy. I think this particular supplement might offer more of a placebo effect. I would advise you that the best thing you could probably do for yourself is to get used to working out without this supplement. You don't need it if you eat as well as you say you do =). Value a balanced diet!

Hi Marlen, surprisingly I do not have that issue with foam in my urine. I drink about 1 1/4 gallons of water throughout my whole day. I take my hydration very seriously because of the amount of protein and the fact that I am also taking creatine. Here is my menu for today as an example.
Meal 1
4 egg whites
1 egg whole
3 oz of shredded chicken breast
diced tomatoes
diced onions
strawberries (1 cup)
1/2 cup cooked oatmeal
Meal 2
2 slices whole wheat
1 whole can of tuna (white)
Mustard
Apple
Meal 3
1 cup cooked oatmeal
2 scoops isopure protein (50g)
Meal 4
6 inch turkey sandwhich with double turkey breast meat (subway) no condiments only veggies on wheat bread
Meal 5
6-8oz salmon
1 -2 cups broccoli
1/2 cup brown rice
1-2 cups salad greens
sliced cucumbers
2tbs of fat free italian dressing
Meal 6
1 scoop protein shake isopure (25g)
2 tbs natural peanut butter
I am VERY accurate with my food and measure EVERYTHING out. I right down all the information on labels of food that I am consuming and DON'T break my diet Monday-Friday. Because of my diet the protein just adds up and this week I am trying MORE CARBS as I have discussed with people on this thread.
Seriously thank you for your input, having a resource like this with professionals that actually know what they are talking about is an AMAZING resource to have as I continue to learn myself, so thank you.
Gus
Meal 1
4 egg whites
1 egg whole
3 oz of shredded chicken breast
diced tomatoes
diced onions
strawberries (1 cup)
1/2 cup cooked oatmeal
Meal 2
2 slices whole wheat
1 whole can of tuna (white)
Mustard
Apple
Meal 3
1 cup cooked oatmeal
2 scoops isopure protein (50g)
Meal 4
6 inch turkey sandwhich with double turkey breast meat (subway) no condiments only veggies on wheat bread
Meal 5
6-8oz salmon
1 -2 cups broccoli
1/2 cup brown rice
1-2 cups salad greens
sliced cucumbers
2tbs of fat free italian dressing
Meal 6
1 scoop protein shake isopure (25g)
2 tbs natural peanut butter
I am VERY accurate with my food and measure EVERYTHING out. I right down all the information on labels of food that I am consuming and DON'T break my diet Monday-Friday. Because of my diet the protein just adds up and this week I am trying MORE CARBS as I have discussed with people on this thread.
Seriously thank you for your input, having a resource like this with professionals that actually know what they are talking about is an AMAZING resource to have as I continue to learn myself, so thank you.
Gus
Comment by Gus Aguirre 191 days ago
Gus,
You should consider going to acefitness.org and ordering their essentials of exercise science book. I don't know how informed you are about this stuff, my guess would be much more than the average person, obviously!, but the book is a great resource! It's choc full of great knowledge that you would find very useful!
You should consider going to acefitness.org and ordering their essentials of exercise science book. I don't know how informed you are about this stuff, my guess would be much more than the average person, obviously!, but the book is a great resource! It's choc full of great knowledge that you would find very useful!
Comment by Marlan Eller 190 days ago
Answered by john tucker
169 days ago
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No you need to eat carbs especially for high intensity exercise. If you don't then your performance will suffer. You should be eating carbs and food with low fat prior to an exercise session. You need .7 - 1.8 grams of protein per kg and 5-12 grams of carbs per kg and both depend on the intensity level of your exercise routine.
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Carbohydrates are your main energy source for anaerobic activity (i.e: high intensity exercise- sprints/lifting)- don't you want that energy in your system? Fruit is a great option pre or mid workout.










