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Question asked by Barry Bassin 250 days ago

How do you feel about ACE dropping the LWMC certification and changing to their new Health Coach cert?

American Council on Exercise (ACE)Certifications

Personally, as an already ACE-certified personal trainer, I felt the LWMC would be a good career enhancement - most clients have a weight loss goal and the LWMC certification says that you can help with that goal. "Health Coach" seems vague and not target client specific. I was planning to take the LWMC exam this fall. Now, even though I'm invested in the material and have already paid for my exam voucher, I'm not sure if I will proceed. As each certification has a CEC expense, I don't know if this one will be worth it. Your thoughts?

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Answered by American Council on Exercise (ACE) 248 days ago
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Barry - As part of our effort to stay relevant in a rapidly changing industry, we review and evaluate each of our certifications every 4-5 years. As part of that process with the Lifestyle & Weight Management Certification, we felt the name no longer accurately reflected the changing needs of consumers or the evolving roles you as a professional take on to help your clients achieve overall wellness, and as a result we have changed the name of our ACE LWMC Certification to the ACE Health Coach Certification. We believe the name today more accurately reflects what people want to achieve, and it helps you better market yourself to individuals, organizations and companies looking to hire. This research also coincided with introduction of the new ACE Health Coach manual, which features content by award-winning personal trainer Jonathon Ross, behavioral psychologist Dr. Michael Mantell and registered dietitian Natalie Digate Muth, MD, MPH. In addition, the content in the Health Coach Manual will feature content that is more up-to-date and has a greater focus on nutrition, behavior modification, and how to communicate and connect with clients.
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Thank you for your thoughtful response - it's appreciated. However, my concerns remain as before. The majority of my clients - perhaps 8 out of 10 - state weight loss as their primary goal. Whether through self-study or formal certification study, or both, I equip myself with the knowledge and tools I need to help my clients; I'm sure most trainers do the same. With respect to the LWMC certification, I was looking to increase my knowledge, while, at the same time, acquire a credential that tells prospective new clients - clients that I have not yet met and who are doing their own research on available trainers - that I can help with their weight loss goal, and that I have the bona fides to back up the claim. Certified Lifestyle and Weight Management Coach makes that case; health coach does not. With respect to behavior modification, virtually all new client inqueries I get are from people who are already at the Preparation Stage, and who have on their own passed through the Precontemplation, and Contemplation stages; they're ready to get started.

Okay. Enough complaining from me about something that has already been decided. I am an ACE-aligned guy, and proud of it. So I ask these questions in the spirit of moving forward:

1. Will LWMC certifications be automatically converted to Health Coach certifications?
2. Will ACE offer a free CEC course to LWMCs to bridge the gap between what was studied for LWMC and the new Health Coach curriculum, as was done with CPTs from the 3rd Ed. to transition into the IFT model?
3. As this is a new certification, and is unique to ACE, what will ACE do to create a consumer awareness and acceptance for the health coach practice?

Thank you for allowing me to rant and vent my concern.
Comment by Barry Bassin 247 days ago
Barry- Here are the answers to your questions:
1.As of October 1, 2012 the LWMC exam will be updated in our system to Health Coach Exam. Those that are LWMC certified will receive a new Health Coach Certification in the mail shortly after that date.

2.As of now there has been no talk of offering a CEC on the Health Coach curriculum, but your interest has been passed on and will be considered. As with any new edition of a manual or textbook, the additional content in the Health Coach Manual has been updated to make it more relevant to the times. The Health Coach manual can be purchased at our online ACE Store for $69.95 and will begin shipping October 1, 2012. That said, for those that are currently preparing for their exam, the LWMC more than prepares you for the ACE Health Coach Certification exam. New questions are regularly rotated into all of our certification exams each year, even when manuals do not change, but in the case of the Health Coach exam, there will not be a dramatic switch in questions due to the considerable amount of time this process takes, so we strongly encourage continuing on your track and using the LWMC materials to prepare.

3.We want to make it clear that Health Coach is not a NEW certification – it is an evolution of LWMC. As stated earlier, every 4-5 years we review all of our certifications, and with LWMC, we felt the name no longer reflected the job. While we understand that it may be an inconvenience for some when we update our Certifications, we feel it is our duty to stay relevant and maintain the same pace as this rapidly changing industry. If our Certifications, Manuals, Exams always stayed the same, we would not be able to maintain the reputation we have today. After considerable research, we found that Health Coach is a more widely accepted and understood term, making it easier for our Pros to market themselves and succeed as fitness professionals. Additionally, ACE Health Coach is the only NCCA-accredited certification of its kind, so for those fitness, wellness, health care, human resources and allied health professionals interested in furthering your knowledge and career, it only makes sense to choose the most reputable certification. We have used a variety of channels to build awareness of ACE Health Coach, and we are confident that once individuals take the time to educate themselves and experience the benefits that the Health Coach certification can offer them and their clients, they will want to join us in tackling the nationwide obesity epidemic and make a difference in the way people live.
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Answered by Suzanne Hiscock 248 days ago
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This is what I sent to ACE as reply to the announcement I received via email:

"I’m a little disappointed with the name change. People want to lose weight for a variety of reasons, not just for their health; they would relate better to the words lifestyle/weight management better, in my humble opinion. Of course, *our* aim is to help make them healthy – but that’s not always *their* motivation.

People tend to equate “health” with “medical”; I’m a bit concerned that people will see it that way, too, and expect services outside of the scope of the certificate.

Even for myself, I saw the certification on the website and thought it was a brand new certification, actually.

Just my two cents. :-)"

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This is what I sent to ACE on Sept. 12:

"Frankly, I am hugely perplexed by and disappointed in the LWMC name change. In my view, if you wanted to change the name, it should have been changed to give additional emphasis to the weight management aspect of the certification. This new name is vague and largely meaningly useless to those of us who already hold an ACE personal trainer certification and are looking to add new knowledge and a supporting credential for attracting weight-loss clients. From my point of view, I would rather pay an additional amount and receive further nutrition and weight management study material leading to a useful certification than trying to figure out what to do with this new one."

I love ACE and I'm proud of my personal trainer certification through them, and all the CEC and other knowledge I have acquired. But this is one of those quirky things that ACE does, like requiring long-hand math on the certification exams.
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Answered by Susan D'Alonzo 250 days ago
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I am in the exact same position and a bit annoyed also however,the name won't change the information and directive of the certification.
Health Coach sums things up in way but I do prefer LWMC.

I will take the exam, it will be worth it.
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Answered by Karin Singleton 250 days ago
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A rose by any other name ......

LWMC is the current term and thus more recognized. What's in a title if the material is the same?

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I think you just made my point: A "transportation facilitator" may be able to fix you car but you're probably looking for a good mechanic under auto repair. With respect to the material, the LWMC text is mainly a rehash of the same material we learned in ACE CPT study, with expanded content regarding behavior and stages of change. The amount of net new information covered in the LWMC material is small. Indeed, ACE has historically promoted LWMC as a great second certification. Don't get me wrong: I want as much professional knowledge as I can get, and I accept acquiring it as a never-ending process. But I am also looking to grow my weight-loss client base and I don't see where a Health Coach certification is nearly as valuable to me as a Lifestyle and Weight Management certification. So, if a rose is a rose by any other name, then itn't it better to just call it a rose?
Comment by Barry Bassin 249 days ago
Personally, I have never promoted myself with the LWMC even though I held this certification since its very beginning. The same as for the NASM FNS (which NASM touts as the latest weapon against obesity). All we can do is get as much knowledge as possible and hope to get a client who is in that stage of change behavior to be receptive to what we say. We can then call it our success story. Again: to me, the title does not matter
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Answered by Joanne Duncan-Carnesciali 248 days ago
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Weight managment is a facet of health, hence I don't see a problem with the change.

I actually prefer Health Coach.
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Answered by Carrie Harper 248 days ago
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I think really that ACE is thinking ahead with this label. With all of the changes in health care and coverage, the label of Health Coach is becoming more marketable for their people.
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Answered by Raven Witchard 248 days ago
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I can definitely see both ends of the spectrum. I was just thinking about finally ordering the materials for LWMC. If the cert is based on weight management and behavioral change strategies to achieve that then why not just leave it as is.

However by expanding it to Health Coach it does broaden the meaning of that certification. But, a certification and the title are only just that. I consider myself a Body Transformation Coach and there isn't a cert for that.

I just read, learn and study and develop my niche that way rather than relying on the title of a cert to define what I do and who I am. But this change with ACE does sort of let me down. I just loved the sound of Lifestyle and Weight Management Coach!
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Answered by Suzanne Hiscock 247 days ago
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Barry wrote: "As each certification has a CEC expense, I don't know if this one will be worth it."

The CECs would cover both certificates. From ACE's FAQ:

"Q: If I hold more than one ACE certification, do I need to earn 2.0 CECs for each certification?

ACE recognizes the same courses for all of its certifications as long as the CECs are taken within the appropriate recertification period. "
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Answered by Jocelyn Martin 245 days ago
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I'm recently certified as an LWMC (August 2012), so I was a bit surprised by the sudden change, but I don't believe it changes the information that will be taught or learned from the materials. Health Coach is a more all encompassing name change that the general public can understand. When I explain my latest certification to clients or promote it, I tell them that I've learned new skills that will help them reach their weight loss or maintence goals and help them to live a healthier life, easier. As a Health Coach or as a Lifestyle Weight Management Coach, I'd be doing the same thing for my clients.
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Answered by Natalie Smith 237 days ago
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Hello Barry,

ACE didn't change the LWMC certification as much as update it for the times. I am fine with Health Coach over LWMC. This transition should not take too long, as ACE is very well recognized.

I need to explain to people what a personal trainer does anyway; so, in my experience, people just want someone to help them reach their goals. The clients do not seem to mind what the title of their instructor is, just so the instructor is educated to do the job.

Take care; I enjoyed reading your thoughts.
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Answered by Jo Chern 237 days ago
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I also currently hold the certification and I'm not too happy with the change. I understand that "health coach" is a current buzzword in the industry so if you are going into workplaces and trying to set up wellness programs, this term is going to be recognized. But when individuals see "weight management," they are more likely to say "hey, I want to lose weight; that's for me." I'm afraid people will think I don't really work with weight issues, just "health" issues. I know, I know--they are tied together but the general population doesn't always see it that way.
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You nailed it, Jo. Like many who read these posts, I train clients for a living. I'm not worried about explaining to clients what I do and how it can help them. But these are people who are already in my universe. My concern is about having potential new clients who are researching trainers to help with their weight loss goal not call or visit in the firsat place because they're not connecting the dots between Health Coach and weight loss in a specific way that was evident with the LWMC cert. With respect to course content, ACE always gets it right. I'm not worried about what's under the hood; it's the curb appeal that's missing.

Barry
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Answered by Matthew Doe 235 days ago
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I was studying for this certification as well. Though I am also disappointing with the name change i'm not looking at getting this certification for the title, but the knowledge that comes with it. I do understand however why people could be upset by this name change. In my experience as a trainer, most clients are looking for weightless as their goal. The main motivation? To look good and feel good about themselves, not for the health reasons that go with it. That is just a bonus to them. So yes, Lifestyle and Weight Management sounds more appealing to the potential client, and makes more sense from a marketing standpoint for the trainer.
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