Question asked by Lauren Smith 350 days ago
Has anyone read 4-Hour body? What do you think of Tim Ferriss' analysis?
4-Hour body is the new book by time ferriss. He did tests on his own body for over 10 years (and recruited others) and came to the conclusion that we should eat protein (meat), legumes, and greens at 3 meals during the week and take one day every week to binge. Seems crazy, but the research backs him up. What do you think?
Answers (3)
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Hi Lauren,
I have read Tim's book, and I agree with his recommendations. Creating a nutrition plan composed primarily of lean protein, legumes, and vegetables eliminates many of the metabolic and hormonal challenges that occur when consuming sugars and starches. There's no sharp rise in insulin, which significantly limits calories being shuttled to fat storage. In addition, keeping insulin levels in check allows other hormones (glucagon, for example) to release stored bodyfat into the bloodstream to be used as fuel. The 'cheat day' has been employed effectively by active individuals for years, and was popularized in the 90's by Bill Phillips and his 'Body for Life' program. It does sound crazy, but having one day to eat whatever you crave can be an effective motivator in an otherwise sound nutrition program.
Hope that helps,
Andrew
I have read Tim's book, and I agree with his recommendations. Creating a nutrition plan composed primarily of lean protein, legumes, and vegetables eliminates many of the metabolic and hormonal challenges that occur when consuming sugars and starches. There's no sharp rise in insulin, which significantly limits calories being shuttled to fat storage. In addition, keeping insulin levels in check allows other hormones (glucagon, for example) to release stored bodyfat into the bloodstream to be used as fuel. The 'cheat day' has been employed effectively by active individuals for years, and was popularized in the 90's by Bill Phillips and his 'Body for Life' program. It does sound crazy, but having one day to eat whatever you crave can be an effective motivator in an otherwise sound nutrition program.
Hope that helps,
Andrew

Thank you, Andrew! I have a few more questions, if you don't mind.
1. Would it help to eliminate the legumes since these are considered carbs (even though they are also protein)?
2. It seems like it would help to have the "binge" day every other week or only as needed...maybe even not at all? I'm having trouble understanding the benefit to ingesting a ton of calories in one day? Is it really crucial to the plan? Also, on the binge day, is it required to follow the "damage control" that he recommends?
3. He talks about the MED (minimal effective dose) of different foods, but also of exercise. I love to exercise and I am actually about to start marathon training. Even though he says you don't HAVE to workout a lot, is it OK if I do?
THANK YOU!!
1. Would it help to eliminate the legumes since these are considered carbs (even though they are also protein)?
2. It seems like it would help to have the "binge" day every other week or only as needed...maybe even not at all? I'm having trouble understanding the benefit to ingesting a ton of calories in one day? Is it really crucial to the plan? Also, on the binge day, is it required to follow the "damage control" that he recommends?
3. He talks about the MED (minimal effective dose) of different foods, but also of exercise. I love to exercise and I am actually about to start marathon training. Even though he says you don't HAVE to workout a lot, is it OK if I do?
THANK YOU!!
Comment by Lauren Smith 349 days ago
Hi Lauren,
Bear in mind, generally, when people decide to modify their food intake, they eliminate foods they identify as bad, without replacing the calories. Caloric restriction leads to loss of water, muscle, and scale weight, but little fat.
The reason for keeping the legumes in the program, especially for athletes, is to maintain an appropriate level of caloric intake, without creating too great of a deficit. Legumes, are a 'slow-burning carb' with a good deal of fiber and protein, so they are a great replacement for simple starches in a typical nutrition plan. (funny - ProGrade Nutrition just released a product called Fusion that is a combination of protein and fiber, designed to bridge the gap between primary meals)
Regarding the binge or cheat day; Ferriss was successful doing this each week, and I'm inclined to trust his results, as the concept does have a pretty significant history of success. If you're going to be training for a marathon in the traditional way, logging increasing mileage over several weeks, I'd keep the cheat days; your body will need the extra carbs for recovery & glycogen reloading.
If by 'damage control' you mean the short bursts of activity about 90 minutes post consumption, then yes; I would do that if possible. If you mean his nutritional strategies with cinnamon and/or PAGG, that's a personal choice.
The MED doesn't necessarily apply to traditional marathon training; however, there are more and more endurance athletes who are transitioning to a cross-training, high-intensity interval training style of prep for endurance events. The MED would apply in that case. I have personal experience with interval training as a preparatory mechanism, as I trained that way for 6 weeks prior to attending an athletic performance mentorship program, wherein all participants had their VO2 max measured; I tested higher than the endurance athletes across the board. (still couldn't pay me to run a marathon, though! ;)
I hope that's helpful! Best wishes,
Andrew
Bear in mind, generally, when people decide to modify their food intake, they eliminate foods they identify as bad, without replacing the calories. Caloric restriction leads to loss of water, muscle, and scale weight, but little fat.
The reason for keeping the legumes in the program, especially for athletes, is to maintain an appropriate level of caloric intake, without creating too great of a deficit. Legumes, are a 'slow-burning carb' with a good deal of fiber and protein, so they are a great replacement for simple starches in a typical nutrition plan. (funny - ProGrade Nutrition just released a product called Fusion that is a combination of protein and fiber, designed to bridge the gap between primary meals)
Regarding the binge or cheat day; Ferriss was successful doing this each week, and I'm inclined to trust his results, as the concept does have a pretty significant history of success. If you're going to be training for a marathon in the traditional way, logging increasing mileage over several weeks, I'd keep the cheat days; your body will need the extra carbs for recovery & glycogen reloading.
If by 'damage control' you mean the short bursts of activity about 90 minutes post consumption, then yes; I would do that if possible. If you mean his nutritional strategies with cinnamon and/or PAGG, that's a personal choice.
The MED doesn't necessarily apply to traditional marathon training; however, there are more and more endurance athletes who are transitioning to a cross-training, high-intensity interval training style of prep for endurance events. The MED would apply in that case. I have personal experience with interval training as a preparatory mechanism, as I trained that way for 6 weeks prior to attending an athletic performance mentorship program, wherein all participants had their VO2 max measured; I tested higher than the endurance athletes across the board. (still couldn't pay me to run a marathon, though! ;)
I hope that's helpful! Best wishes,
Andrew
Comment by Andrew Eaton 348 days ago
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I have read Tim's book and enjoyed. As with any book, there are things I agree with and others I don't, but he had a lot of good input. As for the nutrition plan, I agree with it for the reasons stated by Andrew. As for the cheat day, it is used successfully by body builders and many others. I have found it does not work for me or my clients. If someone approaches it with a lean body mass to begin with, I think it is well advised. But when someone approaches it with type 2 diabetes, insulin resistance, or morbid obesity and it's related chemical/metabolic problems, the cheat day becomes a week long binge. For someone with those issues, I have found the cheat day will set off cravings and set them way back in progress. And in my experience for the normal woman, it will take an entire week just to take off those cheat calories, stalling any weight loss progress.
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I have to agree with Marie. I work with morbidly overweight clients. I have many clients who have tried this diet and have failed. The cheat day is the problem, and then they crave foods that are not allowed. I don't have one client (out of the 25 who have tried) who was able to lose weight on it. I see this diet more for helping those to lose that last 5% of body fat, not for a plan to help those break a life time of bad eating habits.
I am a fan of kettlebells and liked his workouts. It was a great read and wish I had the resourses to work on myself as he does.
I am a fan of kettlebells and liked his workouts. It was a great read and wish I had the resourses to work on myself as he does.










