Question asked by Marlan Eller 224 days ago
Fit 2 Fat 2 Fit, Personal Trainer Gains 70 pounds on purpose...? (read below)
I have my homepage set to Yahoo!... I came across this article as one of the top stories on the news ticker. A personal trainer has decided to make himself obese on purpose so that he can understand what it's like to be obese. As fitness professionals, what are your thoughts on this? Please read the short article to understand his position before answering. http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/health/why-a-personal-trainer-is-making-h...
Answers (8)
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Hi Marlan,
after reading the article, I had really mixed emotions. I try to take the most positive angle and truly believe that the trainer has the best intentions to understand how it feels to be obese. And I also have no doubt that he will succeed in morphing himself back into his former trim physique.
We all know that diet and exercise will enable people lose weight and get fit. This trainer will prove that point, and I sincerely hope that he will not suffer any long-term effects from his experiment.
But what will be the point at the end of it? Will this be a self-congratulation of the "if I can do it, so can you"-kind?
People do not set out to make themselves obese. The factors of getting there are numerous, from family upbringing to emotions to lack of education. A 70 pound weight gain is usually the result of many years. I hated to see the comment in the article of "letting myself go like this". I did not like this phrase at all. It contains a judgment that I would not dare to render on an overweight person.
Overweight people rarely had a habit of regular exercise. As trainers, we may hear their stories how much they enjoyed PE - 40 years ago. It is a challenging job for us to re-acquaint them with their bodies' inate ability to move.
In summary: I applaud the best intentions of this trainer. No doubt, he means well. But I fear that this experiment will prove nothing new.
after reading the article, I had really mixed emotions. I try to take the most positive angle and truly believe that the trainer has the best intentions to understand how it feels to be obese. And I also have no doubt that he will succeed in morphing himself back into his former trim physique.
We all know that diet and exercise will enable people lose weight and get fit. This trainer will prove that point, and I sincerely hope that he will not suffer any long-term effects from his experiment.
But what will be the point at the end of it? Will this be a self-congratulation of the "if I can do it, so can you"-kind?
People do not set out to make themselves obese. The factors of getting there are numerous, from family upbringing to emotions to lack of education. A 70 pound weight gain is usually the result of many years. I hated to see the comment in the article of "letting myself go like this". I did not like this phrase at all. It contains a judgment that I would not dare to render on an overweight person.
Overweight people rarely had a habit of regular exercise. As trainers, we may hear their stories how much they enjoyed PE - 40 years ago. It is a challenging job for us to re-acquaint them with their bodies' inate ability to move.
In summary: I applaud the best intentions of this trainer. No doubt, he means well. But I fear that this experiment will prove nothing new.
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I think the whole thing is ridiculous!
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In addition to reading the short article, I went further and went to his site http://fit2fat2fit.com/ complete with the PayPal donation button.
I would like to think that this trainer is doing this solely to inspire people to get and stay fit but I am having a difficult time in doing so.
I would like to think that this trainer is doing this solely to inspire people to get and stay fit but I am having a difficult time in doing so.

Oh wow. I hadn't even noticed that! I was supportive before, but now I've lost respect for this man. There's no way that I'm going to support unhealthy habits, even if he INTENDS to correct it. That's just distateful in my honest opinion. Thank you for bringing this to everyone's attention.
Comment by Marlan Eller 224 days ago
That is why when I read something like this I always tend to investigate further.
I find some fitness professionals begin their careers in this profession with truly altruistic goals and then start marketing themselves to obtain that 6-7 figure income... you've seen those marketing ads ..."How to Position Yourself as a World Famous Fitness Expert and Guru".
To me it seems this guy is doing this for no other reason than to draw attention to HIMSELF and make $$ in the process.
I find some fitness professionals begin their careers in this profession with truly altruistic goals and then start marketing themselves to obtain that 6-7 figure income... you've seen those marketing ads ..."How to Position Yourself as a World Famous Fitness Expert and Guru".
To me it seems this guy is doing this for no other reason than to draw attention to HIMSELF and make $$ in the process.
Comment by Debbie Russell 223 days ago
Here he is on FOX news http://youtu.be/WYDyfYt2AWM .... pay attention to his last few sentences ... curious to see if he will charge for meal & workout plans
Comment by Debbie Russell 223 days ago
And suddenly it all becomes clear! What else can I say... Genius! Mean Green wins again! The great part is that this can be hidden behind helping people. If he does in fact help people, then his means will justify the end, and it all works out for the best. I'm sure he's not the only one who has ever done this. That interview was the icing on the cake for me.
Comment by Marlan Eller 223 days ago
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I know people are having a problem with the fact that he is asking for donations and that he will likely charge for his new information product. I don't blame him for that at all. We all charge for our time and information and this is no different, especially if it works.
As for putting on the weight to feel what it's like, I think he would have been better off getting a fat suit. He's right that he's never really going to know what it feels like to be obese and then have to struggle to get fit. But if I was training to be an addictions counselor, does that mean I have to take on an addiction to understand my clients better? It's flawed logic.
In as far as my own business is concerned, I do know what it's like to be fit and then fat and then continue to struggle to get fit despite many obstacles. While I can't say that I know what it's like to take up two seats on the bus, I can say I know what it's like not to be able to run across the street, kneel without pain, being frustrated with clothes shopping and dealing with mean things people say. Those experiences are just as valid as the ones he has had being fit all of his life.
Perhaps what this trainer really needs to do is spend more time with obese people, hear their stories, and be an advocate for their health. If he can't do that, then he might want to find another niche. And since he has been fit all of his life, maybe he would do better with clients that have a similar background who are training for something else.
That's just my two cents.
As for putting on the weight to feel what it's like, I think he would have been better off getting a fat suit. He's right that he's never really going to know what it feels like to be obese and then have to struggle to get fit. But if I was training to be an addictions counselor, does that mean I have to take on an addiction to understand my clients better? It's flawed logic.
In as far as my own business is concerned, I do know what it's like to be fit and then fat and then continue to struggle to get fit despite many obstacles. While I can't say that I know what it's like to take up two seats on the bus, I can say I know what it's like not to be able to run across the street, kneel without pain, being frustrated with clothes shopping and dealing with mean things people say. Those experiences are just as valid as the ones he has had being fit all of his life.
Perhaps what this trainer really needs to do is spend more time with obese people, hear their stories, and be an advocate for their health. If he can't do that, then he might want to find another niche. And since he has been fit all of his life, maybe he would do better with clients that have a similar background who are training for something else.
That's just my two cents.
Wendy, I admire your view on this whole situation. There are no doubt other ways to get the same "results" that this trainer is looking for as far as personal understanding goes. I think it's interesting the route that he has taken. I don't think any of us can blame him for his choice. We may not see him in Forbes, but I'm sure he'll make a good chunk of change from this. If he helps others, that's the important thing.
Comment by Marlan Eller 223 days ago
So, true, Marlan! We must remember that we all got in this business to help others. The more we help others get what they want, the more we get what we want =)
Comment by Wendy Stewart 223 days ago
I agree ... definitely flawed logic but he has found a way to get his name out and bring the $ in.
Comment by Debbie Russell 222 days ago
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Nasty. I just read about it. I relate with my obese clients. They cry, they joke about it, they hurt, they're sick, they hate it, THEY ARE DYING EARLY and they know it! I don't judge them and help them build support networks that don't judge them. I'm not getting ill along side them; they are getting healthier along side me. I get out there and I meet them. I've been clothes shopping, grocery shopping, doctor visiting, house cleaning, and more with obese clientele. Maybe I'm an extreme also but I'm not going to injure myself like this guy. Points for publicity go to him though. (...still new to marketing I guess)
Answered by Danielle Vindez
224 days ago
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The if I can do it so can you, may not be valid.
The NIH and the NHLBI evidence report on obesity (find it online) suggests that there exists at minimum a 40% genetic factor. Other scientists are suggesting that impulse control may be a brain wiring issue, or a not firing correctly problem.
It may be that obesity is not as much self determined as we once believed.
Danielle
The NIH and the NHLBI evidence report on obesity (find it online) suggests that there exists at minimum a 40% genetic factor. Other scientists are suggesting that impulse control may be a brain wiring issue, or a not firing correctly problem.
It may be that obesity is not as much self determined as we once believed.
Danielle
If you want more on neuroplasticity you can read a paper I wrote on the subject with all supporting studies. Just let me know and I can download it to my website. Or I can give you references from my paper. I am in the process of writing a new paper on long term memory and re-wiring those reactions, via a pause and attention behavior. It's the latest and the greatest because it supports that we can re-wire motor, as well as emotion pathways.
Sometimes, I don't dig up the original source because it takes time, and I want to make this sharing a fun experience for me. If people question my contribution they can look me up and judge for themselves, and then ignor or ponder.
Did not see the movie, but I know it was pop.
Danielle
Sometimes, I don't dig up the original source because it takes time, and I want to make this sharing a fun experience for me. If people question my contribution they can look me up and judge for themselves, and then ignor or ponder.
Did not see the movie, but I know it was pop.
Danielle
Comment by Danielle Vindez 224 days ago
Danielle, I would very much like to read your paper!
Comment by Marlan Eller 224 days ago
Marian give me a few days and I will provide you a link. Hope you find it of value.
Comment by Danielle Vindez 224 days ago
Hi Mirian
Scroll to the last item on the newsletter page and click. It should download a pdf.
Let me know if you have any problems accessing it, and what you think.
http://www.defineyourself-coaching.com/secondarypages/newsletter.html
Have a fun day, I'm off to surf.
Danielle
Scroll to the last item on the newsletter page and click. It should download a pdf.
Let me know if you have any problems accessing it, and what you think.
http://www.defineyourself-coaching.com/secondarypages/newsletter.html
Have a fun day, I'm off to surf.
Danielle
Comment by Danielle Vindez 224 days ago
I enjoyed your paper. That's very cool stuff about the monks! It reminded me of a study that I came across while writing a paper for a Psychology of Aging class. The study done in 2001 by Danner, Friesen, and Snowdon, offers a relatively solid example of how positive thoughts and reflections are associated with longer lifespan. It's cool stuff. I found an analysis of this study that I think is a great representation. You might find this interesting: http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2010/10/27/proof-positive-can-heav...
Also, for our continued exchanges, my name is spelled M-A-R-L-A-N. One of these days I'm going to figure out how the l is mistaken for an i because it only seems to happen with certain fonts and colors. Even looking at my name in blue right now, it does appear to be an i. I suspect the r has some role. r l rl ... hmmm
Also, for our continued exchanges, my name is spelled M-A-R-L-A-N. One of these days I'm going to figure out how the l is mistaken for an i because it only seems to happen with certain fonts and colors. Even looking at my name in blue right now, it does appear to be an i. I suspect the r has some role. r l rl ... hmmm
Comment by Marlan Eller 224 days ago
Thanks for the link Marlan, will check it out later today.
Comment by Danielle Vindez 224 days ago
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Wow, just wow. I know my answer is different than everyone else’s. But I think this guy is a rock star. I will be following his progress for sure. It’s something different, a wakeup call to some people. To hear someone who knows what it’s like to be fit and healthy describe their everyday life like it’s some horrible thing. I think its different coming from him vs coming from a fat person becoming thin. If you’re fat going on thin then it’s all about benefits, getting better. If you’re thin going on fat it more like everything is only going to get worse. Since so many people aren’t taking steps to get thin, maybe what they need is incentive to not get fatter.
What are your thoughts on him accepting donations to support his "progress." I think it's easy for us to criticize him based solely on that fact--that he's soliciting donations to further his cause. If this is something he is interested in doing, in my opinion, it would show much more credibility if he did this on his own dime. How many people out there who are overweight have others support them in this way? It's an unfair advantage and completely unrealistic. With him accepting donations for this, it in no way allows him to "fit in the jeans" of the majority of those who are plagued with obesity. What do you think about it? I admire your view on the situation. I haven't completely made my mind up. I'll be following this as well to see if the means justify the end.
Comment by Marlan Eller 224 days ago
Whenever you throw money into the spill it gets complicated. Even in religion it turns people off. This part is tricky to form an opinion on, so I’m going to wait that out. He could be using the money to help others when he is done, raise awareness or even just buy his new fat cloths. The fact to me is that he is even doing this. Call me selfish but I would never let myself get fat to better understand my clients. It’s interesting for sure and I will like to see how it ends up!
Comment by Heidi Campo 224 days ago
Once he loses all the weight I am sure he will be offering his meal & workout plans on his site at a price. Curious to see when May rolls around when he supposedly will shed all of this weight.
Comment by Debbie Russell 223 days ago
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It's his body, he can (mis) treat it however he likes. I guess it will make interesting marketing material for him once he's done: before, after, and then back to the before shot?? I didn't read beyond the provided clip, so I'm not clear why he needs donations; I thought a crappy lifestyle was less expensive i.e., processed foods, no gym/trainer costs, etc..I suppose it'll be interesting to see how this process unfolds.
His comment on his Pay Pal link says "Please feel free to donate. Donations will be used for my weekly food challenges, and larger clothing (since none of my old clothing fits anymore)."
It pays to read further about this to really make a better judgement.
It pays to read further about this to really make a better judgement.
Comment by Debbie Russell 222 days ago
Thanks for this Debbie. You're right, more information for making a judgement is probably warranted. However, Marlan's request was to read the short article only and then comment; which is what I did. It's only after reading other responses that I gathered more info. I stand by my response since it has been well-established that less healthy food is cheaper (in general) which is one critical factor in addressing our current health/obesity crisis in North America.
Comment by Michelle Gillis-Saltzman 222 days ago
Thank so much, Michelle, for your answer. It's great to be getting all these opinions from so many respected professionals! It is interesting, isn't it? That he's looking for clothes that fit... I watched the video in the link that Debbie provided, and I couldn't help but notice that his closet was pretty big for a guy! I hope he's using as little of his donation money as possible. I would respect this a lot more if I knew whether or not this trainer is accepting donations to further a bigger cause, and not just HIS cause. I don't think anyone should be making it easy on him. He needs to experience what it's like to get heavier and have to struggle to come up with the money to buy a new "ensemble." How many overweight people do you know that receive donations from the public? He needs to consider the average income of the population that he's targeting and live within that income range to get a clear picture of how health costs, food costs, and clothing costs are affected by obesity. Health habits come full circle and health affects every other aspect of life, no ifs ands or "butts" about it! This trainer has a great opportunity to drive home that point. Whether or not he sees it and whether or not he will take advantage of that remains to be seen. I hope he's got something up his sleeve that blows us all away.
Comment by Marlan Eller 222 days ago
You're most welcome, Marlan. I can't wait to see how this unfolds:)
Comment by Michelle Gillis-Saltzman 221 days ago













