Question asked by Jeffrey Fischer 192 days ago
Do vitamins or supplements enhance performance in our clients and in athletes?
Some nutritionists stress that we should be getting all we need from real foods.
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Considering that some substances are banned for use by athletes is an indicator that they work to enhance performance, even something as widely used as caffeine.
I think the question is whether you should take supplements, and what is the reason for it.
I personally tend to agree with those who say that you should eat a balanced diet which provides all the encessary nutrition. Having said that, I also take a multivitamin because I know that I do not always do that.
When it comes to supplementation for enhance performance, I leave that question for everybody to decide for him- or herself. It never crossed my mind but I can see why people would be tempted.
I think the question is whether you should take supplements, and what is the reason for it.
I personally tend to agree with those who say that you should eat a balanced diet which provides all the encessary nutrition. Having said that, I also take a multivitamin because I know that I do not always do that.
When it comes to supplementation for enhance performance, I leave that question for everybody to decide for him- or herself. It never crossed my mind but I can see why people would be tempted.

Thanks, Karen. So, in your example, how do you know that the multivitamin is providing your body with "absorbable" materials that the body is metabolizing?
I just read an article in my ACSM Health and Fitness Journal that addressed a study on the effects of Quercetin on athletes and non athletes. The conclusion was that the substance may perform as claimed as a means to prevent illness (Quercetin has antioxidant properties, as well as claims to increase aerobic performance), but there are no definitive positive effects.
I'm kinda looking at the bigger picture of how holistic doctors or nutritionists recommend products like Quercetin, or perhaps some type adrenal support supplement or something like CoQ10, or a multivitamin, even though there isn't scientific proof these things work or not.
Is this lack of definitive proof because many products aren't backed up by tons of money from big pharmaceuticals? There are tons of supplements and holistic products out there. How do we figure out what is worth pursuing?
I just read an article in my ACSM Health and Fitness Journal that addressed a study on the effects of Quercetin on athletes and non athletes. The conclusion was that the substance may perform as claimed as a means to prevent illness (Quercetin has antioxidant properties, as well as claims to increase aerobic performance), but there are no definitive positive effects.
I'm kinda looking at the bigger picture of how holistic doctors or nutritionists recommend products like Quercetin, or perhaps some type adrenal support supplement or something like CoQ10, or a multivitamin, even though there isn't scientific proof these things work or not.
Is this lack of definitive proof because many products aren't backed up by tons of money from big pharmaceuticals? There are tons of supplements and holistic products out there. How do we figure out what is worth pursuing?
Comment by Jeffrey Fischer 192 days ago
To answer the question in your first paragraph: I don't. I only hope so, and since I eat quite well anyway, I am simply not concerned about it.
I would recommend a very interesting book which I read a little while ago: 'The Emperor's New Drugs' by Irving Kirsch. The drugs in question are antidepressants but that was not the fascinating part. It had an extensive review of the placebo effect. I firmly believe that a lot of supplements work for exactly that reason.
That's why expensive drugs tend to work better than cheap ones even if it is the exact same thing. If you throw the power of the mind into the mix, there is no way of knowing what is worth it and what is not. For obvious financial reasons, if would be more advantageous to believe in the cheaper version :-)
I would recommend a very interesting book which I read a little while ago: 'The Emperor's New Drugs' by Irving Kirsch. The drugs in question are antidepressants but that was not the fascinating part. It had an extensive review of the placebo effect. I firmly believe that a lot of supplements work for exactly that reason.
That's why expensive drugs tend to work better than cheap ones even if it is the exact same thing. If you throw the power of the mind into the mix, there is no way of knowing what is worth it and what is not. For obvious financial reasons, if would be more advantageous to believe in the cheaper version :-)
Comment by Karin Singleton 192 days ago
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I'm not sure if I buy into the idea of nutritional supplements enhancing performance. I think the physiology of performance enhancement deals more with substances that are a little more powerful and made in the body. Obviously, nutrition has an impact on that (watch SuperSize Me). However, I think that it might be too broad of a generalization, for me at least, to say that nutrition supplements or vitamins alone offer a measurably significant boost to performance.
Karin brought up caffeine. Do we consider this a supplement? If we do, then yes, supplements alone can increase performance in moderate amounts. If we don't and we're looking solely at vitamins, CoQ10, garlic, milk thistle, acai, major amino acids like l-lysine and l-arginine, maybe a b-complex.. I don't think we would find too much evidence out there that these would increase performance. L-arginine, maybe would promote blood flow. You get into performance enhancement, I'm thinking testosterone, EPO, and to a lesser extent the stuff you can find at GNC (there are good ones and useless supplements at GNC in my honest opinion), and to an even lesser extent I think of cocaine and certain amphetamines, along with the most recent trend---"research" peptides.
Sport Performance and natural, safe performance enhancement are kind of areas of interest to me. I'm looking forward to seeing what others think about this.
Karin brought up caffeine. Do we consider this a supplement? If we do, then yes, supplements alone can increase performance in moderate amounts. If we don't and we're looking solely at vitamins, CoQ10, garlic, milk thistle, acai, major amino acids like l-lysine and l-arginine, maybe a b-complex.. I don't think we would find too much evidence out there that these would increase performance. L-arginine, maybe would promote blood flow. You get into performance enhancement, I'm thinking testosterone, EPO, and to a lesser extent the stuff you can find at GNC (there are good ones and useless supplements at GNC in my honest opinion), and to an even lesser extent I think of cocaine and certain amphetamines, along with the most recent trend---"research" peptides.
Sport Performance and natural, safe performance enhancement are kind of areas of interest to me. I'm looking forward to seeing what others think about this.
Glutamine is proven to be effective in increasing immune function and recovery as well as easily converted to glucose instead of isoleucine, leaucine, and valine during exercise which spares muscle tissue, and creatine is proven to help increase strength through increase CP for ATP regeneration in the ATP/CP pathway. Yes caffeine is a supplement. A good site to check for efficacy of supplementation is consumer consumerlab.com.. Oh yeah and also fish oil.
you are absolutely correct for the most part though its a lot of hype mostly.
you are absolutely correct for the most part though its a lot of hype mostly.
Comment by Shawn Fears 190 days ago
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Rough edged question but the answer really is yes AND no. There is a lot of garbage out there but there is, and has been for some time, some that make a difference. The thing with supplementaion is that it is to supplement what you aren't getting enough of to enhance your performance. Overdosing is a big waste and often dangerous even in the most scientifically proven supplements (ex. creatine & fish oil.) I take a lot of vitamin C but that is for ME as its something that I personally need for improved performance. If someone is deficient in a vitamin or mineral then its best that their dietician recommend them to the proper source.
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Of course nutritionists are going to attest to the usage supplements. Getting all you need from food is one thing (which I support) for the general population looking to better there health. However excelling and increasing performance is a completely different thing. When it comes to competition and performance athletes look for any advantage that can take them to the next level. Supplements have been document to increasing performance. Are they for everyone - No. But their efficacy has been shown in literature.
Fuel the Movement,
JM
Fuel the Movement,
JM
Answered by john tucker
169 days ago
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Hydration status and glycogen replenishment equates to better performance. Vitamins do not enhance performance in any way unless they are deficient.
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The short answer is no. If your diet provides sufficient micronutrients, additional vitamins or minerals will not alter performance. All stress (including exercise) requires additional nutrients because the body pushes through the water soluble vitamins faster than fat soluble vitamins or minerals. If you are eating a balanced diet then minimal additional stress - like that produced by mild to moderate exercise - probably do not require additional nutrients. If the micronutrients in your diet can not keep pace with your daily exercise routines then it is reasonable to add a small amount of B or C vitamins. The danger zone appears in adding too much which tends to put a huge burden on the kidneys. This can also be problematic if clients are taking anti-inflammatory medications such as ibuprofen because the latter tends to alter resorption of electrolytes via the kidneys increasing the probability of bad long-term side effects.
Muscular activity is heavily reliant on sufficient calcium and magnesium - which cannot be absorbed properly without Vitamin D. There should be sufficient in the diet of any client eating a wide range of foods that include dairy products. If you have vegan clients then a quick review of their nutritional regimen should help determine any gaps.
Muscular activity is heavily reliant on sufficient calcium and magnesium - which cannot be absorbed properly without Vitamin D. There should be sufficient in the diet of any client eating a wide range of foods that include dairy products. If you have vegan clients then a quick review of their nutritional regimen should help determine any gaps.
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The efficacy of most supplements are always in question but there are certain supplements that DO enhance particular aspects that will increase performance. They key to taking supplements is to make sure they are of high quality and whoever is takin them knows exactly what the ingredients do for the body. It behooves anybody that takes supplements to educate themselves.











