health fitness
  • Log In / Create Account
  • Renew Membership
  • Join Now
  • View Cart (0)
THE WORLD'S LARGEST ASSOCIATION
FOR FITNESS & WELLNESS PROFESSIONALS
1-800-999-4332 or
  • Home
  • Membership
  • Conferences
  • Insurance
  • CECs/CEUs
  • Articles
  • Videos
  • Store
  • FitFeed
  • Answers
  • FitnessConnect
Ask a health and fitness-related question and receive answers from fitness experts and professionals
Home » IDEA Answers » Do gym members have a preference for personal trainers hired as employees or independent contractors?
More Info
Question asked by Lawrence with Gym Insight 118 days ago

Do gym members have a preference for personal trainers hired as employees or independent contractors?

Personal TrainingBusiness: Personal TrainingBusiness

It seems to be that personal trainers and hiring is a big fitness topic. I have seen fitness forums, including IdeaFit, ask these types of questions...
Whether or not it is better to hire or be hired as an Independent Contractor or as an Employee?;
What type of liabilities are involved in both types of hires?;
ETC...

However, I have not come across the question posed as to gym members' preferences, if they have any at all (probably because most may not know the employment status of their PT and therefore difficult to get stats on this).

What are your thoughts?
Have you, as a gym member, had a preference?
As a gym member, could you tell the difference between a PT that was an employee or one that was an independent contractor?
As a personal trainer, have members or your clients made comments about this preference?

Add Comment
 
Cancel
 

Answers (10)

Answered by Susan D'Alonzo 117 days ago
MemberVerified
1133 Questions Answered, 19 Questions Asked
1
I think what's more important are the qualifications of the trainer not the way they get paid and your clients want the best you can provide to them.

I do however think that this is a hot topic because of the gray areas that have to do with determining a "true" employee vs. an "independent contractor".
1 Comment
Absolutely. I do see this topic everywhere but outside of the grey area, I am really trying to understand the whole range of perspectives.

I believe legally, the analysis of different issues would have to be different state by state.

Comment by Lawrence with Gym Insight 117 days ago
 
Cancel
Answered by Mac Dodds 44 days ago
MemberVerified
259 Questions Answered, 3 Questions Asked
1
I once read from a sales training book that The number #1 reason people buy from you is because they like you.

Add Comment
 
Cancel
Answered by Natalie Smith 118 days ago
MemberVerified
658 Questions Answered, 4 Questions Asked
0
Hello Lawrence with Gym Insight,

It is nice of you to want to see things from another perspective.
I believe that it should not matter. The important thing is that the personal trainer has the gym member's best interest at heart.
Take care.
2 Comments
I absolutely want to see and learn about ALL different perspectives. Thank you again for sharing yours!
Comment by Lawrence with Gym Insight 117 days ago
You're welcome, Lawrence. Have fun.
Comment by Natalie Smith 117 days ago
 
Cancel
Answered by Harris Sophocleous 118 days ago
MemberVerified
776 Questions Answered, 5 Questions Asked
0
Hi Lawrence,

Good question. I have worked in gyms in the past, both as an independent contractor and as an employee and from my experience; members didn't care about my status. Maybe because the gyms I worked for, didn't advertise which one of the trainers were independent and who were not. I'm sure others might have different experiences in this matter, so it will be interesting to read their responses.

Best,
Harris
3 Comments
Based on the other responses, I do find it interesting that some gyms have employee personal trainers wear a uniform and the independent contractors or vice-verse based on Anthony and Karin's comments. That would be a sure fire way to have a member notice the difference. But I do not see a reason that would benefit the gym to advertise that? I can see where it could potentially advertise for the independent contractors for services outside the gym.
Comment by Lawrence with Gym Insight 117 days ago
The way it worked was the independent contractor was compensated the regular rate as regular employees when the client was a member of that gym, while for clients the independent contractor was bringing in to train at the facility, he/she had to pay the gym a % of what he/she was charging. The independent trainer had the option to wear or not the gym’s uniform. In the employment contract there was a clause which stated the independent trainer could not solicit or take away those clients who were provided to him/her by the gym. Of course, each gym it's different and has its own rules as to how to hire independent contractors, if that is the route they wish to take.
Comment by Harris Sophocleous 116 days ago
Thanks for providing more detail about your experience.
Comment by Lawrence with Gym Insight 116 days ago
 
Cancel
Answered by Christina Montell 118 days ago
Verified
19 Questions Answered, 5 Questions Asked
0
I remember when I first joined my gym years ago - I had no idea there were employees vs contract trainers. Would it matter to me? No. As long as they know their stuff, I don't think it matters.
1 Comment
Christina,

Thank you so much for your insight as a gym member. I appreciate your feedback.

Have a great weekend.
Comment by Lawrence with Gym Insight 117 days ago
 
Cancel
Answered by Karin Singleton 117 days ago
MemberVerified
1390 Questions Answered, 12 Questions Asked
0
Hi Lawrence,

I have now my own studio, and, before that, I was an independent trainer at a club where I took my own clients. I never had anything to do with the gym operation and did not train the members. Since I wore a 'uniform' that identified me as being independent of the gym, the members were aware of my different status.

I know that my clients liked the fact that they are dealing with me directly without the middle man.

Karin Singleton
www.meltnc.com
3 Comments
Hi Karin,

I find your feedback intriguing and now am curious. If I may ask a few more detailed questions with no pressure to respond...
Did the gym you work for require you to wear that uniform? If so, did they give a reason why? Did you find that the uniform or the members seeing that you were not part of the gym operation help you gain (if any) them as clients later?

Thank you Karin as always!

Comment by Lawrence with Gym Insight 117 days ago
Hi Lawrence, it was not the gym that asked me to wear a 'uniform' but it was my own decision to wear a shirt with my name and company logo. It was really a way to set myself apart. While I liked the other trainers in the gym I was quite anxious not to be lumped together with them.
Comment by Karin Singleton 116 days ago
Thank you for sharing in more of your experience and clarifying!
Comment by Lawrence with Gym Insight 116 days ago
 
Cancel
Answered by Estella Muzito 117 days ago
Member
1 Questions Answered, 0 Questions Asked
0
Hi Lawrence,
Clients hardly know (may be even care) but i suppose if the payment terms of employed v. contract PTs differ and result in a compromised service quality, the difference could become evident to clients.
1 Comment
This is the same line of thought I would have as a gym memberThank you Estella for your feedback!

Have a great weekend.
Comment by Lawrence with Gym Insight 117 days ago
 
Cancel
Answered by Anthony Sharp Jr 117 days ago
Verified
24 Questions Answered, 0 Questions Asked
0
In my experience it seems that independent contractors are treated a little like black sheep. If you are working in a place and don't have the company logo on your polo shirt then you will always be sort of an outsider.
4 Comments
Hi Anthony, that is very different from my experience. I was an outsider but was treated with great respect and deference.
Comment by Karin Singleton 117 days ago
Anthony,

I'm sorry you had that experience. Did you feel like the other gym employees make it apparent to the members that you trained? Or were you able to bring in your own clientele outside of the gym?

Thanks,
Lawrence
Comment by Lawrence with Gym Insight 117 days ago
It just felt like tension. Nothing major, I think it was because they were a tight knit group and related.
Comment by Anthony Sharp Jr 117 days ago
Got it. Thanks again Anthony.
Comment by Lawrence with Gym Insight 116 days ago
 
Cancel
Answered by Jocelyn Martin 112 days ago
MemberVerified
273 Questions Answered, 13 Questions Asked
0
In my experience, to the member, they don't know the difference, nor ask, nor seem to care. They're more concerned with knowledge, experience, accountability, respect, punctuality, connection and results.
Add Comment
 
Cancel
Answered by Bryant Seton 101 days ago
MemberVerified
841 Questions Answered, 9 Questions Asked
0
As both an employee as manager and independent contractor as a trainer, people really dont distinguish between the two.
But that's just from my experience.
Add Comment
 
Cancel

Add Answer

Image CAPTCHA
Follow Question

Share this page

Client Share
Tweet

Related Questions

Do gym members have a preference for personal trainers hired as employees or independent contractors?

10 Answers | Asked by Lawrence with Gym Insight

Beginning a personal training service at our gym. Any input as to whether to hire trainers as gym employees or independent contr

8 Answers | Asked by Kelly Serfas Bower

What is the best way to find a Certified Trainer to hire as an Independant Contractor?

8 Answers | Asked by Sharon Bourke

As a new independent contractor in a small gym, how should I market myself to acquire new clients?

5 Answers | Asked by Tracy Ross

Joining on as a member of another strength and conditioning gym

6 Answers | Asked by Kristin Chadwick
View All Questions

Find a Personal Trainer

IDEA Fitness Connect
  • IDEA FitnessConnect
    • Find a Fitness Professional
    • Find a Personal Trainer
    • Find a Gym
    • Find a Class/Event
    • Fitness Success Stories
    • Fit Pro Blogs
    • FAQs
    • Get Listed
    • FitFeed
    • Media Information
  • Fitness Conferences
    • IDEA World Fitness Convention™
    • Inner IDEA® Conference
    • IDEA Personal Trainer Institute™ East
    • IDEA Personal Trainer Institute™ West
    • Apply to be a Presenter
    • Assistant/Work-Study Program
    • International Representative Program
    • IDEA Awards
  • Publications
    • Article Library
    • IDEA Fitness Journal
    • IDEA Trainer Success
    • IDEA Fitness Manager
    • IDEA Fit Tips
    • IDEA Food & Nutrition Tips
    • IDEA Pilates Today
    • Authors’ Guidelines
    • Republishing Policy
  • About IDEA
    • Contact Us
    • Press
    • History
    • Advertising & Exhibiting
    • Management
    • Careers with IDEA
    • IDEA Experts
    • Previous Award Winners
    • Joining Forces
  • Career Guide
    • Certifications & Trainings
    • IDEA Answers
    • Continuing Education
    • Liability Insurance
  • Membership
    • Become a Member
    • Renew My Membership
    • Log-in
Be Social: Find us on Facebook follow us on Twitter
Copyright © 2013 IDEA Health & Fitness Association. All rights reserved.
Terms & Conditions | Privacy Policy | Site Map