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Question asked by Wendy Stewart 284 days ago

Best way for women to burn fat?

Women's FitnessWeight LossWeight TrainingFat LossBody FatPersonal TrainerPersonal Training: Skills/TechniquesMuscle Mass

At my gym there is at least one female and male trainer who believe that when women want to lose weight that they should avoid lifting weights. Instead, they should concentrate on fat loss, maybe use their body weight for resistance and use only light weights. They say they should lose fat first and then build muscle. Last I checked muscle burns fat and I always make sure new female members get their hands on the weights to show them how strong they really are and explain the relationship between lean muscle, body fat, and how muscle burns fat. Why would a trainer tell them to avoid the weights?

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Answered by Shawn Fears 281 days ago
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Check out Jean Forgatsch Fry..google her or just look at her FB profile pic http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/profile.php?id=12401675

Last week at a body weight of 123 she squatted 415, benched 235, and deadlifted 375(which she is not happy about) in competition for a professional total of 1025 at 123lbs.

She is a very feminine HEAVY lifter and exemplifies what proper strength training can do for a femal body. Also check out Rachael Cosgrove's Female Body Breakthrough book and her FB Fan page http://www.facebook.com/RachelCosgroveFanPage

there is NO reason that an otherwise healthy female shouldn't train with external resistance.
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That is amazing and inspiring to me as a competitive runner I like to keep my body weight low but I also want to get stronger and maintain a healthy amount of body fat for my brain.
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Answered by LaRue Cook 284 days ago
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Resistance training is an important element for EVERYONE (including women) to become more fit. I just produced a documentary film on the female strength training, and in it the subjects all talked about the many benefits (both physical and mental) of resistance training for women.

The goal of "losing weight" is no different, and women's bodies react to resistance training the same as a man's. So, it's ridiculous to think (and even more so for a trainer to SAY) that women should not resistance train. Perhaps your gym's Director of Personal Trainer or other such person needs to hold some in-service continuing education classes there so that when issues like this come up, they can be nipped before they get out of hand. After all, like it or not, the quality of the personal training at a gym, and how the public views the trainers will be determined by not only the quality of the training but also of the information that the trainers are giving out.

You may want to suggest these types of periodic "training meetings" to help stop this sort of "bad information" from being spread at your gym. As "they" say, "one bad apple can spoil the barrel" and in this case you have TWO.

Good luck!

LaRue, CSCS
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lecfitness@yahoo.com
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LaRue, thanks so much for answering my question. I really like your idea of having training meetings to talk about things like this. We have been in transition with a new Fitness Manager but I will bring this up to him.
Comment by Wendy Stewart 284 days ago
Hi Wendy. You're welcome; glad to help. Yep, staff meetings with an education component are a great way to get everyone on the same page and to correct any misconceptions before they get out of hand. As a former Director of Fitness and Wellness at a College I held weekly meetings with my staff to make sure that these kinds of things didn't happen. In my meetings, one trainer would present something, there was a Q&A session, and I had an agenda to discuss anything that I thought was relevant to our continuing operations. These meetings can be a real good educational tool so long as people aren't judgmental and allow for a free exchange of information.

LaRue, CSCS
www.lecfitness.com
lecfitness@yahoo.com
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Answered by Philip Carpenter Lee 284 days ago
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I like what Karin, Joanne, and LaRue have already written, so allow me to add some additional thoughts.

The first step in weight loss is changing your diet. Exercise is the first step in becoming healthier and can help in losing weight. Dietary changes are still the first and most important step. There is very little difference in gender when it comes to programming a diet and exercise solution.

Some of the factors that matter more are the client’s goals, current physical condition, health history, available time, fitness knowledge and skills, and more. Gender has only a small role in exercise prescription which is usually covered in the initial screen, such as “client would like to get pregnant as soon as possible” or “client is pregnant!”

Another key step in getting healthier or losing weight is determining who and what to listen to in terms of advice. The great thing about your post is that you can have multiple responses. Perhaps those trainers you mentioned in the question are saying the same thing as many other trainers in IDEA, but in a different way.

Maybe they do not consider bodyweight exercises as weight lifting.

Maybe they are trying to keep their clients from the traditional madness of bodybuilding.

Maybe they have developed a series of exercises to prepare their clients for weight lifting. Who knows?

Whether you read an article in Shape or in Scientific American, whether your trainer has a Ph.D. in All Things or a Certificate in Underwater Knot Tying, you still have to filter the information to make it work for you. There is no certification that can replace your judgment.

Read from and listen to many sources, be skeptical, try out those ideas that make sense to you, and learn from your mistakes. No one knows you better than you. Your trainer, your doctor, and your hair stylist all need to listen to you and work with you, not the other way around.

Phil Carpenter Lee, Instructor
LightSpeed Fitness, Inc.
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I really liked what you said about testing ideas and not taking them for face value. That is what I normally do and, since I'm an avid reader of Oxygen magazine and former powerlifter, I love the weights. It was great to show a new gym member how to strengthen her back as she wanted by using the weight machine and the free weights. I believe she was very excited to see that she had lots of options beyond the treadmill and elliptical. I also have a 70 year old client who always gets on the weight machines after her warmup. Clients like that really inspire me to do my job in the best way possible!
Comment by Wendy Stewart 283 days ago
 
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Answered by Michael Schmid 283 days ago
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Why, why why would any certified trainer tell ANY client not to lift weights for weight loss? The only time I could see that advice being appropriate is if the client has a medical condition that would contradict the use of resistance training.

When it comes to weight loss and muscle "if you don't use it, you'll loose it" is the phrase to live by. Fat is the body's survival energy stores. During weight loss, the body will break down unused muscle for energy. Having a resistance, or "strength training" component included with an appropriate diet and cardio prescription will signal the body that the muscle is needed, and is not to be sacrificed.

I had a new client who had been going to another local facility where she was using only very light weights (5-10 lb dumbbells) and body weight exercises as a resistance component. She did drop some weight, but quickly reached a plateau. I started her on a strength training program that included much higher weights, ones that would challenge her ability to get to 20 reps, and the weight has come off at a steady and appropriate rate since.

If you add one pound of lean muscle mass, the body will burn off enough extra calories over the course of a year to shed 5.2 pounds of fat.
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Like I said, I don't know why they would say that, but I love to be able to pose questions like this and bounce it off of you all. I don't pretend to know everything so I thought there was something I was missing and didn't know. One thing that always strikes me is when new female members seem hesitant about the free weights but want recommendations on group resistance classes. I usually give them suggestions because I want them to take full advantage of what their membership provides, but I also caution them that there is a potential to plateau with classes because you can only lift so much in the way that many of the classes are formatted. For that reason, it is good to work with a trainer to help you get the most out of your workouts.
Comment by Wendy Stewart 283 days ago
 
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Answered by Susan D'Alonzo 107 days ago
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I'm surprised that anyone (still) believes this!
Weight training, cross training, mix it up training, interval training, resistance training all burn calories!

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Answered by Karin Singleton 284 days ago
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I have absolutely no idea why a trainer would tell a woman not to lift weights. I am appalled by that statement. Where did they get their certifications from?

As can be seen by my frequent answers, I am rarely rendered speechless but that does it!

You are right on with your statement, Wendy. Women need to lift weight, and for more than one reason.
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Thanks Karin! The male trainer has a degree in Exercise Science and is about to get his ACE certification and the female trainer is the Assistant Fitness Manager and former police officer. Crazy, right? The female trainer actually told me that I was lifting too heavy and that I was only going to get bigger by lifting heavy weights.
Comment by Wendy Stewart 284 days ago
I don't know how far away from certification he is, but I was shocked by his answer, and that was from a conversation today when we were role playing because he was complaining that he can't close sales at the gym because the pricing is too restrictive but he can close just fine on the outside because they're his own prices and programs.
Comment by Wendy Stewart 284 days ago
Joanne, you bring up good points as I have been encouraging other trainers to join IDEA. Many of them seem to have not heard of it so I have lent them old copies of mine.

It is entirely possible they could see this conversation, but I have already voiced my concern to him and the other trainer about their training philosophy. I'm not telling you anything I haven't told them. I just thought I was going crazy after hearing the same thing for a second time from a trainer with a degree. That's why I wanted to bounce the question off of you all; to make sure I'm on the right page with what I'm doing (I need to get a copy of the newest PT manual).

Also, I am working on my own body transformation so I really wanted to make sure I was doing the right thing for my body as well. So I really do appreciate the feedback.
Comment by Wendy Stewart 284 days ago
Karin

What is the science behind MELT?
What research supports this or what evidence do you have behind this?
Comment by Chris Gellert, PT, MMusc &Sports Physio, MPT, CSCS, CPT 50 days ago
 
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Answered by Joanne Duncan-Carnesciali 284 days ago
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Wendy, the only thing I can say is that when we know better we do better.

You are in an ideal position to be a catalyst for change and growth. Share the science of exercise with your colleagues as it relates to the resistance training/fat burning conversation. Perhaps you might download an article from this portal that they might enjoy and that may assist them in seeing things from the perspective of the science.

Thank you for your question and I look forward to our continued exchange.
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Answered by Chris Gellert, PT, MMusc &Sports Physio, MPT, CSCS, CPT 50 days ago
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With all that has been stated, first respect one another guys!
Second, I agree why wouldn't you teach someone who wanted to lost weight to lift weights?

To lose weight we all knOw we need to create a caloric deficit.
Per the science, 500 calories per day= 1 pound lost naturally.
It is also critical to obtain from the client a food diary assessing what they are eating, the amounts,
When they are eating and educate them first and foremost!

Second, a thorough fitness assessment needs to be conducted.
Also looking at any present or previous injuries.
Depending on their exercise exercise experience, this dictates how much and the type of exercise to begin with.

Analyzing and calculating their THR zone is critical to lose weight
With that information, we can begin to use the appropriate cardio vascular
Machine to burn calories steadily and consistently.

Introducing weight training should be implemented as part of the exercise prescription and explained thoroughly to the client, that performing weight training and cardio burns more calories due to raising your metabolic rate because of the use of Fats and carbs as the e egg substrates.

At the end of the day, it isn't effective to criticize one another,
But to learn and understand what you do win you clients.
"understanding the science behind the movement" is FUNDAMENTAL
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Hi Chris,

I saw that you asked about MELT and the science behind it.

Sue Hitzman as the creator of the MELT method has been studying with fascia researchers for years and has formulated a view of the body informed by the works of Tom Myers, Gil Hedley and others. The techniques used in MELT aim to rehydrate connective tissue.

I do not want to chicken out of trying to answer your questions but I know that my first answer will immediately spawn more questions form you, and I will soon find myself in a situation where I simply do not know.

I would love for you to get in touch with Sue herself. She will be at the next IDEA World Fitness Convention. You will be able to talk to her in a peer relationship and get the depth that I cannot provide even though I have made an effort to understand all that fascia stuff.

So allow me to bow out and defer.
Comment by Karin Singleton 50 days ago
 
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