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Question asked by Patty Hartong 183 days ago

Being a trainer with serious back issues

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Hello everyone – Just went to my back orthopedic surgeon and was told my 51 year old back is a mess. (I went for my sore foot and they wanted to address the lumbar spine so needless to say – I was very shocked to find out my back is horrible shape). I do have minimum back pain from an accident 5 years ago and scoliosis (also I just found out).
My question – Is there anyone else out there with a serious back issue who is still teaching Group exercise classes/Zumba and Personal Training? I don’t want to stop what I’m doing (and was told to go easy on jumping and heavy lifting) but I also do not want to make things worse. NOTE: I have a several 4mm and under bulging dics and a 6mm bulging disc on L5/S1 – along with spinal stenosis up and down my spine. My L1/2 is the worst – just about bone on bone.
Just looking for a fellow trainer with similar issues. Thanks! Patty

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Answered by Karin Singleton 182 days ago
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Hi Patty,

I can only imagine how scared you are. Going to the doctor because your foot hurts and walking out in the belief that your lower back is only one step away from a major disaster.

Considering what you have been doing up to this point and that you are without symptoms, you should ask a lot of questions of different medical providers. Get second opinions and third opinions if necessary. Listen also to your own inner voice. You know your body better than anybody else.

My own bit of history: in 1999, I was told that I would have to wear a functional brace for the rest of my life after an ankle injury. That same year, I walked a marathon (without the brace), and my foot has been just fine ever since. I know it's not the same as your back but I am sure glad I decided not to believe what I was told.

Wishing you all the best.
Karin Singleton
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Thanks for your reply – and yes your story encourages me – I know I will push past this as I have other joint pains.Thanks for your concern. I really appreciate it. Patty
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Answered by Janet Weller 181 days ago
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I agree with Karin about going for other opinions. Backs are a complex issue, and what shows on the XRay/MRI's often does not match the pain the person feels. Sounds like that is the case with you. There are a high percentage of people with herniated/ bulging discs etc, with NO pain, and those with "normal" spines who have tremendous pain. Just because the back looks bad on scans does not mean you need to treat it.
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agree! thanks!! that's what I thought too! OKAY - I'm over it - time to move on! I will continue with my personal workouts. I appreciate you help.
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Answered by Patty Hartong 181 days ago
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THANKS everyone! I feel better! I love the statement - "Just because the back looks bad on scans does not mean you need to treat it". I’m not in pain – I can do anything and everything I want to do. I'm a healthy and active 51 year old athlete and love my job - my clients - my students. I appreciate everyone’s comments.
Time to go back to thinking about my clients and no so much about myself“ !!
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You go, girl!
Comment by Karin Singleton 181 days ago
That's right; you are not damaged; please do not ever think that way. We all have something wrong we do not know about.

You remind yourself everyday like you tell us: "I’m not in pain – I can do anything and everything I want to do. I'm a healthy and active 51 year old athlete and love my job - my clients - my students."

Best wishes to you, Patty.
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Answered by Patty Hartong 183 days ago
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PS - More details: I went to my foot Dr (not a back dr) and was sent for a nerve conduction test (which turned out good) and a MRI of the lumbar spine. He wasn’t to see if my spine was causing my foot pain (it was not).
They said – go to Physical Therapy (I also teach yoga). If that doesn’t work – get epidural injections – and then surgery if nothing works. This is crazy – I feel fine and have no “real pain” or physical limitations.
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Answered by LaRue Cook 182 days ago
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Hi Patty. I'm sorry to hear about your diagnosis. While I do not have this issue, I wanted to chime in with my opinion. Does your physician know what you do for a living? And if so, given your profession, what has been his/her advice moving forward? I know that you're wanting to hear from other trainers out there who may be experiencing "the same thing," but as you know, there isn't such thing as the same thing when it comes to our bodies and how they deal with a condition or illness. What another trainer may be experiencing may or may not have any connection or relation to how your body responds or how you should proceed. I hope that you rely more on your own medical professional team (physicians, therapists etc) in deciding what you need to do.

I wish you the best, and continued success in your career. Good luck!

LaRue, CSCS
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Agree LaRue -
Thank you so much for replying…..
As for relying on my Dr- at some point they have no idea what needs to be done, while this happened and what I can and not do (in my field).
Their comment: While some people experience pain with a small bone spur – others with severe knee arthritis experience no pain at all.
What I was told – “If it hurts stop – if nothing works get a shot and then there is surgery – and good luck. Also – “Don’t run – and don’t lift heavy weights (no weight limit given)”. I currently curl 25/30 lbs. I guess I need to stop.
I’m just looking for trainers that have their own joint issues and continue working in the field.
Not looking for advice..
I will go to Physical Therapy. Thanks for your concern. I really appreciate it. Patty
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Answered by Joanne Duncan-Carnesciali 182 days ago
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Hello Patty,

I am curious to know whether you saw the diagnostic x-rays and MRI? If you haven't please request to see them.

However, on another note, I'd like to share something with you that is helpful to me when I find myself facing challenges where it appears that I am between a rock and a hard place...

It might seem off the beaten track, however, have you ever considered hiring a life coach? I ask this because at times when it appears there is no way out it might benefit us to speak with someone who can assist us in seeing the possibilities or the silver lining in the situation we deem to be challenging.

To encourage you, I'd like to share something that the 20th century psychiatrist Carl Jung described in order to encourage his patients to acknowledge their strengths and imagine possibilities in order to outgrow their problems. He said:

"The greatest and most important problems of life are all in a certain sense insoluble. They can never be solved, but only outgrown. This outgrowing as I formerly called it, on further experience, was seen to consist in a new level of consciousness. Some higher or wider interest arose on the person's horizon and through this widening of view the insoluble problem lost its urgency. It was not solved logically in its own terms, but faded out when confronted with a new and strong life-tendency."

I encourage you, with the assistance of a life coach to to widen your view and find your new and strong life-tendency. I believe with all my heart there are great things awaiting you!

Best.
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Thank you so much - this is very helpful...
Comment by Patty Hartong 181 days ago
and yes I saw the MRI (it was very scary)....... it did not look young and healthy. But I have seen one of my client’s knee that was bone on bone and looked so bad you would think she could never walk on it – and she doesn’t have pain….. it’s the other knee (not as bad) that hurts her… CRAZY!
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Answered by Natalie Smith 182 days ago
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Hello Patty,

I applaud your enthusiasm; keep up the great spirit. You know your body better than anyone else; so, go with your gut feeling; that is what I do for my feet.

I find that not all doctors understand the difference between physical therapists and personal trainers and prefer to give me the option of pain medicine, which I deny.

Your training background will help you decide when to take it easy.

As a trainer, I do not need to do the workout with the class, as it is their workout, not mine. I only need to instruct; therefore, I take advantage of walking around the class to check on the clients.

This is what helps me when my feet are acting up. I do not have a back condition... that I know of; but, I need to be careful of my aging body, knowing there are back problems in the family.

Take care and thanks for sharing your courageous and inspiring story.
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Good points - and something I do - "As a trainer, I do not need to do the workout with the class, as it is their workout, not mine. I only need to instruct; therefore, I take advantage of walking around the class to check on the clients". Thanks!

Comment by Patty Hartong 181 days ago
You're welcome; glad you are getting on with your career.
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Answered by Susan D'Alonzo 181 days ago
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Are you in pain? Is your back limiting your ability to teach?
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It has not limited my ability to teach. I teach Zumba as well – and I love it – I love moving my body. Really the pain comes from my foot. It has limited high intensity exercises (or going barefoot) more than my back. After my “back” accident I realized I had to be careful – but really it has not slowed me down a bit. Finding out I had scoliosis was a bummer though – it is something that is always on my mind. Thanks!
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Answered by Bryant Seton 181 days ago
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As long as your back doesn't negatively effect your health or the training of your clients/classes I don't think this would be a problem.
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Thanks Bryant - that's what I thought too - but hearing it from another professional helps. THANKS! I tell you - once you get these thoughts in your head - it's hard to get them out. LOL!! Sometimes I wish I didn't know. I was happy and felt healthy prior - now I feel a little "damaged".
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Answered by Danielle Marquez 179 days ago
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I have issues with a bulging disc, and there's several things I don't do anymore because the exercises always strain it. However, I have learned to use verbal cues alot more now as opposed to demonstrating. Luckily, I teach Pilates and group strength--not sure how much verbal-only you can do with zumba.

Either way, my understanding is that some herniations and bulging discs might be asymptomatic. I would advise you to stop doing (or at least modify) whatever it is that is hurting you, especially your foot, or that might start to hurt in the future. Don't work through it like I did. I ignored some of the signs my body was giving me and ended up not being able to bend or sit down for 2 weeks. Now THAT was really hard on my training job. It got better, but I know now to lay off any time I get a bad twinge.

BTW, I do some pretty serious kettlebell and TRX stuff, so a disc issue is not a death sentence. You just need to have proper biomechanics and a good mind/body awareness.

Good luck, and glad you're feeling pretty good!
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Thank you so much for sharing.... I stopped using kettlebells - but love and use the TRX. Patty
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Answered by Jocelyn Martin 174 days ago
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I agree with the other who say you may want to seek a second opinion.

Medicine is both a science and an art. There is so much we are still learning about the capabilities of the human body. What may cause one person pain and discomfort, may not to some one else. Everyone's body aligns and performs differently.

And just as there is a wide spectrum of personal trainers, the same can be said of doctors. See someone else. Tell them what you were told, tell them how you currently feel, and ask lots of questions till you get answers that mesh with what your body is telling you.

I tell my liens that they are the only ones who know their body best. If this diagnosis doesn't sound or feel right to you, go looking for one that does!
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thanks so much!
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Answered by Robyn Caruso 172 days ago
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Hi Patty,

I have an injury from about 8 years ago and I am now 33. I have two herniated disks at level L4/L5 and L5/S1. I also have a bulging disk at T12. I have been a trainer for 13 years but do have to watch what I am doing. Please listen to your doctor and what they say. I started out with really bad pain and now it is gone but I have to keep my back and core strong.

You want to be careful with degeneration of the disks as you can get pain later on. Your back may also tell you if you have done to much. I will get warning signs. I just wanted to chime in because when/if you do get pain it is very painful. I used to do alot more high impact exercise but had to stop. I can do high impact classes a couple times a week. For me, possibly getting pain again in the future isn't worth it. Along with pain you may also get strength loss, bad pain when you cough or laugh, numbness and tingling, not being able o sit, stand, or sleep etc ect. Try to keep yourself pain free for as long as you can. If you get pain it could take up to a year or more to go away. It took me about a year and two months. There are alot of people who are pain free in the beginning. Just be careful.
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Thanks Robyn,
I appreciate you sharing your situation with me. 33 is so young (I feel 51 is so young). You nailed it though…. Pain is not worth it. I now have neck pain…. Ugh!
I have slowed down - but on the days I feel good I end up giving it my all.
I train older adults – now I understand their situations more. I do have more empathy for those dealing with pain and trying to stay active in the process.
Funny – in this process – I lost about 4 lbs…. I think it is muscle. Ugh!
Going to start Physical Therapy soon (see what they say)….thanks again… Patty
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Answered by Danielle Vindez 151 days ago
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Physicians are valid and reliable advisors. We want to consider their advice as part of our decision making process and devise something we can live with successfully. This does not mean we are irresponsible, but it means we weigh and consider many variables. This is critical thinking, making a decision based on valid information, and unbiased assumptions.
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